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Kapalika

Bible study surrounded me this morning
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:46:47 pm »
So this morning was very interesting, but this story really begins last night, the last night of my homelessness if all goes as intended today. So I was up a little longer playing Stellaris with a friend online, and went to go find a 24/7 place to keep playing. Didn't find one, but lost my purse off the back of my bike, found it again after an hour, but lost my working phone charger. By the time I got to my sleeping spot, sleep wasn't really worth it. Got some,  but ended up going to Starbucks at 5:30AM as it was so cold I could't sleep (it went down to low 40's last night).

Satan and Coffee

So I'm sitting here around 8AM or so, bouncing ideas around with @Onyx on IRC as I work on making some business cards as it's become clear I really need some. Anyways I tell him "Well shit, I'm now surrounded by a Bible Study at Starbucks." as over time I'm no longer beside, but engulfed by  the rest of the long table being filled with men wanting to do a Bible study. I go to the edge, but like 3 more guys meet and I'm on one end of it all.

"I've seen some coffee-shop evangalism before, milk it for whatever you can get out of it." Onyx tells me.

He wasn't wrong. "Hey this Bible study isn't so bad they offered me some food." I told Onyx as I munched on some meh sweet bread. But oh was I in for a much sweeter treat. It was around this time I realized under my heavier jacket I was wearing my denim one with the "Satan is my daddy" and such pins and my "eat pizza and hail satan" t-shirt... welp it was gettin' warm. Feeling even more mischievous I slip into the bathroom to get my one padded bra on that helps the "Hail Satan" stand out more and put on a small pair of sigil of baphomet ear rings.

Master yourself! The Spectrum of Satanism

Before I know it, my mischievous sense of humor is thwarted. One of the men there is for some reason defending his desire to drink now and then but it's clear he's got a problem... and someone responds with "I was leaning on my own understanding" in response to him as some parallel and I'm just here shaking my head.

I keep listening as me and Onyx talk about his altar, graphics designs and site design. Then suddenly I ask one of the guys to my right and in front of me about how long he's been a Christian. I let it slip that I'm a "tantric" as well as "also a satanist".

One of them asks me what Satanists actually believe as he's never heard it from a Satanist! I start out explaining the Church of Satan in it's origins and now, before talking about the Temple of Set, then the Satanic Temple. I come to cover theistic Satanisms such as @VenusSatanas 's system and Diane Vera's on and off Church of Azazel that used to be around as examples. I also give myself as an example of pantheistic Satanism and I dip into explaining the deal with the Order of Nine Angles and Joy of Satan.

It was actually pretty well received by the one guy and we talk some about beliefs in Hell among what all else I forget. Interesting stuff. Then the Bible group wraps up as he continues with me for a while longer than he leaves.

Too many coincidences?

By this time Onyx has lost contact with me. "Did you survive the coffee shop evangelism RajoGuna?" For all he knew I was now dead, locked in a basement as exorcisms were forced upon me or worse... converted to Christianity.

Luckily his fears were assuaged. "Nope... holy shit some other dude came in, this is going on forever." I got more of that weird sweet bread and offers to various ways of helping me.

One is happy enough to give me their phone cable to keep. Okay, win for me. A guy had come in, that had passed by earlier and felt he had to get another cup of coffee that his god told him too, as he told me later. In any case him and the guy that had the pastries talked long with me about religion and beliefs and there was some interesting bits but I'll just point out the ones I remember the best (so much was covered) and that actually are fun to hear about.

So I did try to tell them about Lucifer vs Satan vs the Devil and what the actual evolution of the theology on it was throughout time is on it but it kinda went over their head oh well. We talked some about other religions and a bit about audio engineering as the pastry guy had done work as that and said he might have work for me along those lines.

Anyways the god-wants-me-to-have-another-coffee guy lays down hard on how he felt that his god had led me to this specific table in this specific Starbucks out of the tons in town right when their Bible group was. At one point he openly prays for me and all that. Okay this is kinda awkward, I thought but I was just polite. After all I was getting to talk about Satan and Satanism!

He talked about how he was an undercover cop who went dirty selling drugs he had seized, reached a point in his life, quit his job and turned himself in. Apparently he got off with just probation and community service as he moved the entire court room with his remorse and story of redemption and busting himself. Okay well I've heard crazier things. He was very charismatic so it's totally possible.

Learn to fish! Don't ask god for fish.

But the funniest and most interesting part is when he was talking about his relationship with his god, and he said that Yahweh was like a father and that he worries not if now the city after him (not the feds he got off light from) on the same charges are making him face possibly 15 years. To him he said that Yahweh takes care of him and all that. He really laid on "being dependent" on his god and "being like a child to his father."

I bring up a point in Satanism, that while Yahweh as a father makes his children dependent, say by giving  them fish and they can only get it from him... Satan teaches us to fish and will help us along the way so we can be more of peers rather than submissive. I then tied this to my favorite Lakshman Joo quote about us being one with Shiva.

More food, thanks Lord Satan

So I get to talk to him some about Hinduism and Tantra and Satanism. I talk about how he and many at that Bible group seemed to have a past with drugs and give my take on it. Through this he at least gets the take away that Satanism is about taking control of your own life and destiny, that we don't rely on a god to try to fix it all for us. I see this as a win although obviously I've not imparted as much onto him as I did the first guy who was more receptive towards hearing about Satanism. I loved that I was able to segue way into it by pointing out the "Satan is my daddy" pin. Ha.

Anyways he does offer me help since he's working at a shelter. I tell him I'm gonna be in an apartment by the end of the day (FINALLY) but he ends up taking me to buy a nice chicken sandwich with tomatoes and the works at a somewhat fancy bakery a couple stores over. As I check on my bike someone's left a whole boxed meal for me. I hide it and say nothing of it.

In the bakery he also offers to get me a second sand which for on the go for later. I take it. Then as they give us our food either the shop gave me something extra or messed up as I got a *third* sand which. I put it in the to go box with my other.

Also non-chronologically, after the coffee-god guy leaves the pastry guy says 'surprise me' and gets a chocolate cake thing he decides he doesn't like, and I get it. So more food! Dear Satan too much food! I'm set for the rest of the day for sure, with a quality sand which to spare for ShadowWolf once we get into the apartment!

This guy may be thinking Yeshua, but the whole time to me I'm thinking back how a *Satanic* spirit guide helped me meet just the right people, and how specific types of demons who've more than encouraged me to do certain things they would consider sinful in this course of guidance have inter played with this. Surely this was the work of the devil, I supposed. After all I know I got a certain demon over watching me as of late. If what he said was true, I did point out at one point, where was he and them 3 weeks ago when the first apartment fell through? lol

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit[/u]

Almost forgot this section, but I tried to explain that according to certain verses I couldn't ever be forgiven but coffee-god guy sidestepped this without missing a beat more than once. Apparently Yeshua would go out of his way for me or anyone. The dude just wasn't on my level of quoting the Bible. At one point pastry guy made a remark about Satan knowing the Bible.

Which is true I guess, that's why I'm not Christian lol I know what's in their Bible. I got to quote a little bit of Diane Vera's infamous page. I meant to bring up as well @mindmaster's article in the Impersiable Star but it slipped my mind plus i hadn't actually read the second half yet lol.

In any case it was one of the ways I slipped in Satanism and got to explain (or at least tried to but only got some in) psychodrama and ritual work without a literal belief in something. I did clarify I don't actually believe that, just what I did to separate myself further and lead into other things I had to say about Satanism.

Icky prayer

We exchange numbers and such (as he might be able to help me later if I ask, he more than offered despite me saying I'd be fine.. who am I to turn down a possible resource?) and as I go to what I thought was shaking his hands he holds me hand and starts praying stuff. See the first time he prayed it was for me to get a job and stuff.

But then he goes into about angels surrounding the apartment of which I even told him where it was (roughly) and it being where I go if in his words, that's where 'god' wants me to go. He says something about me getting out of the "dark" places I was going (he knew I've been a Satanist for like almost a decade). Overall this caught me by surprise and I've had to listen to this a fwe times to get the ickyness off of me:

 

I did talk with both pastry guy and coffee guy about life in general, so the fact I was running out of meds and have bipolar came up which came to a hilarious part where coffee guy "rebuked" the "spirit of bipolar" like dude... you might as well rebuke the spirit of blue eyes because both are genetic.

Overall I did my best to be polite and stuff. Worked out fine I guess.

Conclusion?

I got free, good food. Gods I'm so full. In any case I feel as if I was able to pretty skillfully employ lesser magic without ever having to lie or distort stuff. I didn't exploit them I just knew when and how to say certain things and most importantly I diverted their attention from others they might lead to their slave religion. As nice as they were, they are poorly mislead and I feel bad for them. They turn to religion to control their lives because they don't have that kind of mindset or self control themselves. They rely on their god as a crutch because they want to be dependent, not independent. I got this strong BDSM vibe with the submission and all... not uncommon I just hadn't seen it so explicit in a while.

I'm just really confused, well from their perspective it makes sense I guess, but wrapping my head around the idea that their god lead me to them and today's circumstances to get me all this stuff. Again, I've been operating on Satanic energies, forces and guides. Too many demons involved of which I know speciifcally who they are and what they ask of me and I do for them for this to be anything of their god.

So something surely is looking out for me, but it is aligned with Satan, the True God of this World and the Prince and Powers of the Air, not with the pretender to the throne that is Yahweh. What is God anyway, but a force? A cosmically permeating Darkness and Power? I serve Satan, my master and I make no apologies and yet I can be polite, spread Satanic ideals and beliefs and benefit from the misguided attempts to sway me while keeping them awy from harming others by trying to convert them.

For that alone, this has been a productive day for me to a start of what will be a great one as I move into the apartment. Hail Satan!
« Last Edit: November 09, 2018, 09:52:34 pm by Kapalika »
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

Kapalika

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 09:53:15 pm »
Forgot some details but recalled right away, added a section on blasphemy against the holy spirit and such, all other sections untouched.


It is now like 2PM. this has been an interesting day so far lol
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

Etu Malku

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 10:56:49 pm »
Why are you homeless?
IAMTHATIAMNOT

Kapalika

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2018, 01:10:02 am »
Why are you homeless?


Because:


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3 weeks ago when the first apartment fell through


And just like that, haha I just got a text to head over now. No longer homeless!


Long story short we got lead on on the first apartment that was "for sure". just now going over. a luciferian and satanist living together. its gonna be awesome
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

Onyx

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2018, 05:02:02 am »
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...locked in a basement as exorcisms were forced upon me or worse... converted to Christianity

Hahaha. :mrgreen:

pi_rameses

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2018, 10:52:01 am »
Hail @Kapalika. This exchange definitely went better than the one you had in Columbus. I think it's rather telling either that you are improving in communicating with others or perhaps an indication of the people in those states are a better lot. Possibly a combination of the two.
"Some say Kos, others Kosm.
As you did for the vacuous Rom,
grant us eyes.
Grant us eyes."

-Micolash, Host of the Nightmare

Kapalika

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2018, 02:24:56 am »

Ya, I literally got a text as I was writing my reply to Etu that the apartment was ready. Got internet in this morning. I texted the coffee-god-guy in a way to blow off the way he prayed for angels to surround me and give credit to my gods instead and explain again that my guides have had me do magic he would consider evil and thus his holy spirit couldn't of guided me to meeting him. He replied he was just glad me and my friend were safe and moved in and stuff.


He seems like a nice guy, I just don't agree with his religion is all and I think we are at a point of mutual respect. I think it did a lot for him to realize how Satanism is again about self mastery and not something that most people would see as evil in of itself.

Hail @Kapalika. This exchange definitely went better than the one you had in Columbus. I think it's rather telling either that you are improving in communicating with others or perhaps an indication of the people in those states are a better lot. Possibly a combination of the two.


Well they didn't accuse Satanists of sacrificing kids or say I'm a "low level Satanist" so it's the latter. The way i got with that woman had more to do with how off the wall she went. Kinda sad that that was our first time meeting in real life to have a crazy person in the mix I didn't know.


Granted, back in WV I had pleasant convos like I did yesterday morning. It just really depends on what kind of person you are talking to. Also one of the guys yesterday morning I saw wince when I said I was a Satanist he just didn't say anything.
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

pi_rameses

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2018, 02:34:27 am »
Cool. Coffee-god seems a truly devout Christian. He gets the core of his book. Samaritan and all. It could also be that he is a Satanist and just doesn't know it. I won't argue the fine points. Good on him.
"Some say Kos, others Kosm.
As you did for the vacuous Rom,
grant us eyes.
Grant us eyes."

-Micolash, Host of the Nightmare

Liu

Re: Bible study surrounded me this morning
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2018, 03:30:40 pm »
Great to read about your experiences, and glad you're fine!

Kinda makes me more comfortable with the risk of others noticing my religion if even on your continent people are as understanding.

Sorry for hijacking your thread, but, I also had an involuntary discussion about Satanism recently and almost slipped up.
We (colleagues and me) were in the pub late, and talking about animal symbolism, especially that of goats and sheep. So I mentioned some people consider goats to represent individuality whereas sheep would stand for herd mentality - and some guy who isn't in town often due to living in another country, he then asked me whether I'm a Satanist :huh:
Well, someone else had mentioned a few sentences before that goats are associated with Satan - some people from East Asia were present and weren't aware of that association - so it didn't come completely out of nowhere, but still caught me off guard.
Being both very tired and extremely nervous, I shrugged it off with something like, that's not what I said. The talk went on for a bit in which I was kinda digging a hole for myself, though, by talking about how I had heard of Satanism being pro-science and critical thinking (I was too nervous to play completely ignorant), but luckily I was interrupted by I don't remember what before much more harm could be done and then some other topic came up. Still wondering how that would have gone on and what the one asking thinks of my words if anything (he was the only one listening to my words and he never brought it up again). Especially since, thinking about it, his question was completely innocent considering the context and only by getting nervous about it might I have raised any suspicions.

That night I of course dreamt of having come out to my colleagues about my religion, and I felt very relieved in the dream.
Still don't intend to come out about it, though.
They'd not have any religious objections, criticizing Christianity is something my co-workers do much more often than me, some even going as far as making religious jokes, e.g. Christian being blood-drinkers and cannibals according to their own theology. But who knows whom they might tell it, and I don't want to risk my reputation that easily - well, if any of them read my posts here they might guess it's me, but that's unlikely enough.

So, no idea whether I got any spirits guiding me, nor into which direction.