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Kapalika

sex magic with partners
« on: October 29, 2018, 02:13:07 am »
This is something I've only ever done with one of my ex girlfriends (who was a witch) to some degree, but it was to enhance the sex.


I'm not too versed in using human (as opposed to spirit) partners for sex magic (even though it's probably the normal thing in Tantra when it comes to sex magic).


Has anyone here ever used sex magic with success? Or any other experience with sex magic with a ritual partner? What was the aim of the ritual / spell / ect and what was the result?
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

Etu Malku

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 02:27:21 am »
This is something I've only ever done with one of my ex girlfriends (who was a witch) to some degree, but it was to enhance the sex.


I'm not too versed in using human (as opposed to spirit) partners for sex magic (even though it's probably the normal thing in Tantra when it comes to sex magic).


Has anyone here ever used sex magic with success? Or any other experience with sex magic with a ritual partner? What was the aim of the ritual / spell / ect and what was the result?
What would be the 'success/goal' of Sex Magick?
IAMTHATIAMNOT

Kapalika

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 02:36:33 am »
I can't tell if you are asking what qualifies as a successful working or if you are asking if sex magic has only a specific type of goal in mind. Could you clarify?
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

Etu Malku

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 02:51:49 am »
I can't tell if you are asking what qualifies as a successful working or if you are asking if sex magic has only a specific type of goal in mind. Could you clarify?
The latter
IAMTHATIAMNOT

Kapalika

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 03:03:00 am »
Well, I don't know why it would only have one specific type of outcome. Really you could apply it to anything, hence I asked what people's aims were and what the results of the sex magic with parnters was.

I know that traditionally in tantra it's most often used to enter certain states of trance. The Kapalikas in particular did this, and they described moksha as a similar state to these rituals. They were mimicking the gods (as some Tantrics tend to do) and in doing so, came closer to realizing their inherent nature with them.

In my case, I used sex magic to enhance sex but I could see it used towards literally any end. I'm most curious of using it to heighten awareness and potency of spirit magic, more so as I have an affiliation with Lilith, so sex to me is a gateway to her.

A lot of sex magic actually I'm familiar with uses edging, to build up energy and magical potential. This is something that many tantric ascetics do. In the case of the Kapalikas they would reabsorb their sexual fluids to retain their power. I've been using sexual frustration and denial of orgasms off and on as of late to increase my magical power and I've noticed it has but of course it can be overwhelming. When I keep myself at a certain level of frustration I find I'm more attuned towards spirits and spiritual activity and my senses and instincts are heightened, but it can be too intense at times.

So those are two or three possible uses of sex magic.

Either way I'm seeing if I can learn from others who have taken this further by using an actual partner. I want to know who's achieved what with it, how they did it, and what they were trying to do.
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

crossfire

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 03:54:01 am »

In my case, I used sex magic to enhance sex but I could see it used towards literally any end. I'm most curious of using it to heighten awareness and potency of spirit magic, more so as I have an affiliation with Lilith, so sex to me is a gateway to her.

If this is your goal, then one partner remains mindful and alert, while the other goes through the various trance stages.  The mindful guide then observes and prompts the one in trance when they are showing signs of various trance stages (such as spontaneous mudras,) so the one in trance will know the various stages for what they are, and learn how to navigate them.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2018, 03:55:40 am by crossfire »
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idgo

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 04:48:50 am »
Depends what you mean by "partners".

After noticing the way in which focusing intently on someone else while experiencing arousal and release tends to leave me kind of "drained", I became a lot more mindful of how I use that focus.

In good partnered sex, even with a non-"magician" partner, I find that I give them energy and they give me the energy right back (or vice versa) so it basically evens out. I can redirect it toward a particular personal working if I want to, but I rarely do that.

For solo sex, I have a "meditation" if you will which takes advantage of the thinning of time's hold during altered mental states of arousal. Basically, there's a place in my SU that doesn't exist at any single point in OU time, where I can go to participate in what I guess it'd only make sense to call an orgy with myself... or, my *selves*, of all the other moments I have chosen and will choose to go there. It's pretty easy to attribute control of different muscle groups to different "whens" of myself, as after all my body is their body too, which allows for pretty much any physical interaction that can be had within the constraints of only having a single body at any particular point in time.

The fun emergent outcome of this attempt to avoid firing off random bursts of personal energy toward persons and constructs who don't want or need them is that the place I use becomes more or less a battery of power/energy. When I have too much, I go there and give it to a "when" that wants it.... and when I have too little, I go there and take some from a "when" that wants to give it away.

Since it's fully subjective, I can of course assume any apparent form and temperament that happens to suit me, and similarly I can find a "when" with almost any form and temperament that I happen to be looking for. To a limited extent, I can also converse with other "when"s to give or get relevant life advice... but that's really not what the area is designed or optimized for. Sending concrete information between points in time in the "wrong direction" has a lot of issues that are easiest to avoid by just keeping it vague.

pi_rameses

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2018, 12:25:25 pm »
Nope. LBM mostly for me. Any pointers welcome  8)
"Some say Kos, others Kosm.
As you did for the vacuous Rom,
grant us eyes.
Grant us eyes."

-Micolash, Host of the Nightmare

RussellHart

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2018, 11:39:01 pm »
 I have a ridiculous affection for all things Sex Magic.

Self-Care is a must. Allow no yellowing of the bottoms of your feet (you are only as clean as the bottoms of your feet, your perinuem, and the back of your tongue), the teeth, the fingernails. Allow no foul odors to be emmitted. Let the hair have a lusterish shine to it.

Integrate blindfolds and whips and objects to it. If you don't want to make eye contact then make a game of not letting your partner see your eyes.

Learning martial arts will greatly enhance all sex magic ability.

Make sure the sheets are pristine. Make sure the floors and lighting are superb.

Let your partner do whatever they want at times, learn to surrender control while maintaining it.

All things BDSM help!
Make the ego your bitch, BITCH.

Etu Malku

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2018, 04:03:06 pm »
I have a ridiculous affection for all things Sex Magic.

Self-Care is a must. Allow no yellowing of the bottoms of your feet (you are only as clean as the bottoms of your feet, your perinuem, and the back of your tongue), the teeth, the fingernails. Allow no foul odors to be emmitted. Let the hair have a lusterish shine to it.

Integrate blindfolds and whips and objects to it. If you don't want to make eye contact then make a game of not letting your partner see your eyes.

Learning martial arts will greatly enhance all sex magic ability.

Make sure the sheets are pristine. Make sure the floors and lighting are superb.

Let your partner do whatever they want at times, learn to surrender control while maintaining it.

All things BDSM help!
where's the magick come in?
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Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 12:21:51 am »
I'm not big on ceremonial/ritual work, and even less the more people who get involve. Even my OS consecration was done solo.

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RussellHart

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2018, 05:50:26 am »
I have a ridiculous affection for all things Sex Magic.

Self-Care is a must. Allow no yellowing of the bottoms of your feet (you are only as clean as the bottoms of your feet, your perinuem, and the back of your tongue), the teeth, the fingernails. Allow no foul odors to be emmitted. Let the hair have a lusterish shine to it.

Integrate blindfolds and whips and objects to it. If you don't want to make eye contact then make a game of not letting your partner see your eyes.

Learning martial arts will greatly enhance all sex magic ability.

Make sure the sheets are pristine. Make sure the floors and lighting are superb.

Let your partner do whatever they want at times, learn to surrender control while maintaining it.

All things BDSM help!
where's the magick come in?

By lessening any chance of your partner going "ewww" or having a negative reaction you can exchange energy smoother. What are you expecting with "sex magick"?
Make the ego your bitch, BITCH.

Kapalika

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2018, 11:06:27 am »

By lessening any chance of your partner going "ewww" or having a negative reaction you can exchange energy smoother. What are you expecting with "sex magick"?

Not directed at me, but:

One of the following:

1. greater magic effects (influencing events or people)

2. nondual union with an ideal, element or force (mystical ascension of perception with sex/edging as the tool rather than the end)

3. energy work of various sorts

4. development of occult powers

5. worship of deities and / or sacrifice (in the vamachara sense)

I wasn't really looking for just improving sex, been down that road but meh.

Lately I've ramped up my practice of sex magic, but I can't share anything right now.

Funny thing about point five, I often go into bursts of praising Satan when I orgasm. Daddy <3
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo

pi_rameses

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 04:07:57 am »
This is at once my most favorite and my least favorite topic. The former from the pleasure and ascendance that may be derived from it. The latter from deliberately isolating myself as I don't want to complicate things contrary to mechanisms of the body. Basically, I want that which I have denied myself or stated that I can't have yet. I wonder if I can when I change my mind or will it be too little, too late?

Not sure when this feeling started. Perhaps it was always there. Actually, I think I remember the moment now but I'd rather not say. Correlation does not mean causation. But interesting. Maybe this should have been a journal entry instead. I'll write the rest in a journal to process and access it better.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2018, 04:23:17 am by pi_rameses »
"Some say Kos, others Kosm.
As you did for the vacuous Rom,
grant us eyes.
Grant us eyes."

-Micolash, Host of the Nightmare

Kapalika

Re: sex magic with partners
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 05:09:58 am »
So I met someone who is a darkish witch and open to Satanism and we are kinda getting involved but I'm not sure how serious it is yet. Sex magic with a partner might be a possibility for me in the future.
https://kapalika.com

My religion is Satanism & Kashmir Shaivism via Vāmācāra

"We have none but evidence for the prosecution [against Satan] and yet we have rendered the verdict. To my mind, this is irregular. It is un-English. It is un-American; it is French." ... "We may not pay him reverence, for that would be indiscreet, but we can at least respect his talents." - Mark Twain
"God and the individual are one. To realize this is the essence of Shaivism." - Swami Lakshmanjoo