Author Topic: Western Left Hand Path  (Read 395 times)

Etu Malku

Re: Western Left Hand Path
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2019, 01:31:52 pm »


I try my best to redefine antinomianism in a new light, one that places it at our inner war with our shadow self and in lieu of individuating one's self. Whereas Heterodoxy seems to be firmly attached to the nomos (to use your word) of religion and culture.

I seem to be failing . . . however;

(from Thomas Karlsson's talk given at Flambeau Noir in Ottawa April 2017)
Antinomianism, in the spiritual and philosophical meaning:
a) Defining the utmost realities through negations and
b) going against the grain, to be aware of unconscious patterns
c) building a higher moral through breaking free from simple social morality defined by the majority (a concept actually close to ethical idealism).
I practice this:
a) Apophatic (via negation) approach rather than cataphatic approach
b) I am often contrarian
c) I do work hard to try to bring the nomos out of the unconscious and into consciousness for examination.  Not only is this a needed element for the evolution of society, but it is also an excellent skill to prompt people to bring up other stuff from their unconscious mind and rationally examine it.
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Antinomianism as a praxis of spiritual dissent manifests as both a methodology and a practicum to personal spiritual freedom. Antinomianism represents a historical methodology and post-modern evolution of individualized thought that seeks freedom from the confines of cultural, social and genetic/memetic programming. The path of spiritual dissent has most often been documented and categorized as that of the Left Hand Path (LHP). The path of harmonious acceptance of man as he is and the giving over of self-responsibility to a higher force has most often been represented by the Right Hand Path (RHP).
If you are apathetic to your unconscious cultural programming, then how are you going to bring it into consciousness and examine it?  That's basically the same effect as RHP repression of ideas outside of the "norm."

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I try my best to redefine antinomianism in a new light, one that places it at our inner war with our shadow self and in lieu of individuating one's self. Whereas Heterodoxy seems to be firmly attached to the nomos (to use your word) of religion and culture.
Well yes, stuff that is repressed by the nomos will be in your Shadow, and antinomianism will help bring the repressed stuff up into consciousness for examination.  The ego is "consuming" the Shadow.  Heterodoxy doesn't always involve the conscious, rational, examination part--the danger of heterodoxy is ego becoming consumed by the Shadow, instead of vice-versa.

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To practice heterodoxy is to accept these religious beliefs as something true and thus something to be at war with . . . I do not accept most religions, therefore, I have no use for heterodoxy.


You really lost me here . . .
Apophatic theology, also known as negative theology, is a form of theological thinking and religious practice which attempts to approach God, the Divine, by negation, to speak only in terms of what may not be said about the perfect goodness that is God.


Contrarian
    1.   a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, especially in stock exchange dealing.

    2.   opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice.

Just for the helluvit or is there some motive behind it?

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If you are apathetic to your unconscious cultural programming, then how are you going to bring it into consciousness and examine it?  That's basically the same effect as RHP repression of ideas outside of the "norm."
I am apathetic to it because anytime I unveil some kind of cultural programming I immediately see it for what it is . . . nothing. After decades of this one becomes apathetic to it . . .

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The thing is that there is both truth (wisdom) and falsehoods to be found in whatever nomos you are considering.  To dismiss it all as false is to throw away discernment and throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Everything other than my own, personal nomos I understand as not a part of me, but a part from someone else. I am only interested in the Universe I am creating for my Self.
IAMTHATIAMNOT

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Re: Western Left Hand Path
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2019, 03:43:50 pm »


You really lost me here . . .
Apophatic theology, also known as negative theology, is a form of theological thinking and religious practice which attempts to approach God, the Divine, by negation, to speak only in terms of what may not be said about the perfect goodness that is God.
The Apophatic approach can also be applied toward Self (or just about anything else, for that matter.)


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Contrarian
    1.   a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, especially in stock exchange dealing.

    2.   opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice.

Just for the helluvit or is there some motive behind it?
I tend to do it naturally/unconsciously, usually without a conscious motive.  (Although I suspect it might have developed as a defense against being manipulated and/or as a means to express intuition {unconscious cognition})

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If you are apathetic to your unconscious cultural programming, then how are you going to bring it into consciousness and examine it?  That's basically the same effect as RHP repression of ideas outside of the "norm."
I am apathetic to it because anytime I unveil some kind of cultural programming I immediately see it for what it is . . . nothing. After decades of this one becomes apathetic to it . . .
OK, I'll give you that--there is a difference between becoming consciously apathetic to it and remaining unconsciously apathetic to it.  I disagree with you regarding it being nothing, however.  It being nothing would violate causality, constituting an effect (cultural norms) without a cause.

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The thing is that there is both truth (wisdom) and falsehoods to be found in whatever nomos you are considering.  To dismiss it all as false is to throw away discernment and throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Everything other than my own, personal nomos I understand as not a part of me, but a part from someone else. I am only interested in the Universe I am creating for my Self.
I see this as a conclusion resulting from an apophatic approach towards self.  (This is not me.  This is not my Self. This is not who I am.)  Negative itheology.  ;)
"Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you."
~Carl Jung

Etu Malku

Re: Western Left Hand Path
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2019, 05:32:29 pm »
Ewww . . . Itheology . . . i like that!  :P
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