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The Serpent Mound
« on: May 12, 2018, 01:36:33 am »
Did you guys and gals ever hear about this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_Mound

"An eight-member team led by archaeologist William F Romain has been published in the Journal of Archaeological Science.[12][13] The team found much older charcoal samples in less-damaged sections of the mound. The investigators conjecture that the mound was originally built between 381 BC and 44 BC, with a mean date of 321 BC. They explain the more recent charcoal found in the 1990s as likely the result of a "repair" effort by Indians around 1070 AD, when the mound would already have been suffering from natural degradation.[5]

"If the Serpent Mound were designed to sight both solar and lunar arrays, it would be significant as the consolidation of astronomical knowledge into a single symbol. The head of the serpent is aligned to the summer solstice sunset and the coils also may point to the winter solstice sunrise and the equinox sunrise.[16]"


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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2018, 03:59:29 am »
This is an amazing find, I'm trying to ponder it's astrological significance before I commenter further.

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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2018, 04:11:42 am »
This is an amazing find, I'm trying to ponder it's astrological significance before I commenter further.

Draco?
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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2018, 02:58:57 pm »
Interesting

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It's fiery tongues bearing forth speech
Into all the kingoms of the Earth."


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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2018, 05:55:10 pm »
I remember seeing this before. Some stuff from the book citied in the Wikipedia article, Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley. I did this in a rush, a full PDF is availble on archive.org.


ANCIENT WORKS, GREENE COUNTY, OHIO.

Probably the most extraordinary earthwork thus far discovered at the West, is the Great Serpent, of which a faithful delineation is given in the accompanying plan. It is situated on Brush creek, at a point known as the " Three Forks," on Entry 1014, near the north line of Adams county, Ohio. No plan or description has hitherto been published ; nor does the fact of its existence appear to have been known beyond the secluded vicinity in which it occurs. The notice first received by the authors of these researches was exceedingly vague and indefinite, and led to the conclusion that it was a work of defence, with bastions at regular intervals, — a feature so extraordinary as to induce a visit, which resulted in the discovery here presented. The true character of the work was apparent on the first inspection.

It is situated upon a high, crescent-form hill or spur of land, rising one hundred and fifty feet above the level of Brush creek, which washes its base. The side of the hill next the stream presents a perpendicular wall of rock, while the other slopes rapidly, though it is not so steep as to preclude cultivation. The top of the hill is not level but slightly convex, and presents a very even surface, one hundred and fifty feet wide by one thousand long, measuring from its extremity to the point where it connects with the table land. Conforming to the curve of the hill, and occupying its very summit, is the serpent, its head resting near the point, and its body winding back for seven hundred feet, in graceful undulations, terminating in a triple coil at the tail. The entire length, if extended, would be not less than one thousand feet. The accompanying plan, laid down from accurate survey, can alone give an adequate conception of the outline of the work, which is clearly and boldly defined, the embankment being upwards of five feet in height by thirty feet base, at the centre of the body, but diminishing somewhat towards the head and tail. The neck of the serpent is stretched out and slightly curved, and its mouth is opened wide as if in the act of swallowing or ejecting an oval figure, which rests partially within the distended jaws. This oval is formed by an embankment of earth, without any perceptible opening, four feet in height, and is perfectly regular in outline, its transverse and conjugate diameters being one hundred and sixty and eighty feet respectively. The ground within the oval is slightly elevated : a small circular elevation of large stones much burned once existed in its centre ; but they have been thrown down and scattered by some ignorant visitor, under the pre- vailing impression probably that gold was hidden beneath them. The point of the hill, within which this egg-shaped figure rests, seems to have been artificially cut to conform to its outline, leaving a smooth platform, ten feet wide, and some- what inclining inwards, all around it. The section a b will illustrate this feature.

Upon either side of the serpent's head extend two small triangular elevations, ten or twelve feet over. They are not high, and although too distinct to be over- looked, are yet too much obliterated to be satisfactorily traced. Besides a plat- form, or level oval terrace, at B, and a large mound in the centre of the isthmus connecting the hill with the table land beyond, there are no other remains, except- ing a few mounds, within six or eight miles, — none, perhaps, nearer than the entrenched hill in Highland county, (see Plate V,) thirteen miles distant. There are a number of works lower down on Brush creek, towards its mouth ; but their character is not known. The point on which this effigy occurs commands an extensive prospect, overlooking the " bottoms " found at the junction of the- three principal tributaries of the creek. The alluvial terraces are here quite extensive, and it is a matter of surprise that no works occur upon them.

The serpent, separate or in combination with the circle, egg, or globe, has been a predominant symbol among many primitive nations. It prevailed in Egypt, Greece, and Assyria, and entered widely into the superstitions of the Celts, the Hindoos, and the Chinese. It even penetrated into America ; and was conspicuous in the mythology of the ancient Mexicans, among whom its significance does not seem to have differed materially from that which it possessed in the old world. The fact that the ancient Celts, and perhaps other nations of the old continent, erected sacred structures in the form of the serpent, is one of high interest. Of this description was the great temple of Abury, in England, — in many respects the most imposing ancient, monument of the British islands.

It is impossible, in this connection, to trace the analogies which the Ohio struc- ture exhibits to the serpent temples of England, or to point out the extent to which the symbol was applied in America, — an investigation fraught with the greatest interest both in respect to the light which it reflects upon the primitive super- stitions of remotely separated people, and especially upon the origin of the American race.

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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2018, 08:06:21 am »
All I know about the place is it's not that far from where I live and I know a Native American who had something going on there during eclipses.


I'll need to look more into this and share the link with her. Thanks for telling us about it!
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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 03:28:27 am »
I get Apophis eating time out of that one picture but I really do feel there's something strong to the astronomical or astrological influence I'm missing out. I do want to make a detail post speculating but the issue I'm having is I know native american astronomy and such is so different from the traditional that there's a whole class on it offered on it in anthropology programs and I don't want to be presumptuous.

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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2018, 02:53:01 pm »
As I'm currently in Ohio, I would like to visit one of these sites to experience it. Greene County is approximately 60 mi west of me. But perhaps there are other mounds that are closer. It's worth taking a look.
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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2018, 03:23:36 pm »
I just watched this video the a few days ago about this site - how strange to see it again here. I'll link it if anyone is interested. He goes over all the measurements of the site, and clearly presents possible astrological alignments and some of the theories about the place. He usually speculates about lost ancient technology and such but this one is pretty tame if you aren't into that.

    Art thou pale for weariness
Of climbing heaven, and gazing on the earth,
     Wandering companionless
Among the stars that have a different birth, -
And ever-changing, like a joyless eye
That finds no object worth its constancy?

-Percy Bysshe Shelley

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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2018, 03:50:49 pm »
I just watched this video the a few days ago about this site - how strange to see it again here. I'll link it if anyone is interested. He goes over all the measurements of the site, and clearly presents possible astrological alignments and some of the theories about the place. He usually speculates about lost ancient technology and such but this one is pretty tame if you aren't into that.



Can you share his astrological speculations? Won't be able to watch for a while :(

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It's fiery tongues bearing forth speech
Into all the kingoms of the Earth."


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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 05:34:12 pm »
For you? Of course. :b

I uploaded the most salient images from the video with some sparse labels for you here: https://imgur.com/a/JaJACxD


The Thuban connection might suggest an early construction date, around 3000 BCE. But that is much earlier than the dates produced by the most common archaeological methods, the earliest of which is around ~1000 BCE.

Whether or not you consider that an important part of the correlations, I think that the stellar fitting for the center of the procession is quite strong - knowing how important that area has traditionally been for astronomers. I can't personally confirm the solar and lunar correspondences, but it seems quite reasonable and is interesting to consider.

If you're really interested in the site, you should still watch the video because he mentions some extra bits of information that may be useful for your consideration. It's not a professional analysis or anything, but it is quite a decent overview for an 8 minute video.
    Art thou pale for weariness
Of climbing heaven, and gazing on the earth,
     Wandering companionless
Among the stars that have a different birth, -
And ever-changing, like a joyless eye
That finds no object worth its constancy?

-Percy Bysshe Shelley

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Re: The Serpent Mound
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2018, 05:38:50 pm »
That's insane! Thanks for the breakdown. The line up with Draco and Ursa seems pretty spot on. I remember reading once that Draco was actually way bigger and had two heads or something... Anyone have any idea?

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It's fiery tongues bearing forth speech
Into all the kingoms of the Earth."


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