Author Topic: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?  (Read 1415 times)

Xepera maSet

So I'm the guy who always has his altar up, pentagram and all. I wear the jewelry too a lot, and I talk about metaphysics often, guest speak on the LHP to college courses, etc. I just recently left a very long relationship (all for the better) but of the three things I'm worried about (likes porn, likes light bondage, likes Satan) this is by far the biggest one. I'm afraid my possible women drop tremendously by way of being LHP and was wondering if that's been the case for you, no matter your sex or sexual preference.
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pi_rameses

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 09:30:32 pm »
This is the million dollar question isn't it? I won't pretend to be adept at this so not sure if my response qualifies. The longest relationship that I have had recently is for about a year. All females but I strive to write this in such a way that it could apply to any sexual preference.

It is difficult to describe but there are degrees to which I operate LBM-wise and it depends on the individual. Typically, the partner either wants to see if our ideologies line up (or if we are sexually compatible at all) so as to not waste time or they want to stick around for the ride (either physically or metaphysically) to unpack what exactly I mean when I say certain things irregardless of whether ideologies line up or not. Either way, this kind of works out as I'm curious about my partners and somewhat of a sapiosexual.

If the former, I don't indulge with that person nor do I confide in them as rumors may spread. But if the latter, I am pleased with the outcome whether they stay or leave. I genuinely tell the partner that there will always be a place for them in my psyche and I won't resent them for their decisions.

Overall, I am quite transparent and don't want to lose sleep over them not knowing. Often, there is an initial revulsion. And then they attenuate to my absence when they have stepped out of the relationship. And then they look out into our modern landscape and they ask, "Is it objectively wrong or am I caught up living for somebody else other than myself?" Remarkably, they come back either in a state of confusion or with renewed vigor. This was the case with one of the recent ones.
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Setamontet

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 09:40:12 pm »
Yes I have had relationship issues with women regarding the LHP, some of you know the stories.  If I get drunk enough tonight I might talk about it a little.  :P
« Last Edit: October 11, 2017, 09:43:10 pm by Setamontet »

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Setamontet

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 12:46:29 pm »
I'm not drunk, but I will discuss some relationships I've had in the past that ended because of my religion.

Back in my high school days, there was a girl who only went out with me because she thought she could convert me to xtianity.  When I realized what she was trying to do I confronted her about it, and so we broke up.

My worst relationship was with my ex-fiancée.  A really lovely woman, and in the beginning we were completely in love.  She didn't seem to mind my Setianism.  We even performed sex magic at times.  We got pregnant because she said she wanted to and so did I.

However, one day she asked me to put a curse on her ex-husband, and I agreed to.  After that everything changed, she started acting weird, placing angel figurines on her side of the bed.  Saying things like "I'll never see you in heaven".  I knew it was over, and after we broke up she told me (over the phone) she got an abortion because she "didn't want to bring the child of a devil-worshipper into the world."  That boiled my blood and broke my heart.  She was also an ex-JW which should have told me something.  After everything I taught her about Setian philosophy she still used the words "devil-worshipper" and still thought of me in that way.  :facepalm:

I will never forgive her for aborting my child.  If she didn't already have a child of her own from a previous marriage, I might have placed a curse on the bitch.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 01:03:25 pm by Setamontet »

"Arise is your glory, behold the genius of your creation, and be prideful of being,
For I am the same - I who am the Highest of Life." - The Word of Set

pi_rameses

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2017, 07:49:55 pm »
How cruel.
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Frater Gaster

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 07:57:12 pm »

It wasn't the LHP per se, but rather my blessing in disguise that caused issues: The Gift of Set itself!

I can't be in a relationship. It's just not possible. I change so quickly, and so frequently. It just doesn't work. Then there was a series of events which lead me to become a MGTOW.

Thanks to The Gift of Set, I discovered the dark side of relationships, myself, and the female sex. And I am so grateful.
"I know that I hung on a windy tree nine long nights, wounded with a spear, dedicated to Odin, myself to myself, on that tree of which no man knows from where its roots run."

- Odin

NEMO 93

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 08:31:29 pm »
I am so sorry about your experience, @Setamontet. That's terrible.

Honestly, RHP was a bigger damage to relationships than LHP has been so far. RHP set me up to break hard and it was hard to deal with ego loss and my best friend who I was falling for was becoming weird and distancing herself making it even harder to go through alone. She was very RHP and by the time she realized how much she really fucked up by hurting me, she tried to use her RHP philosophy to comfort me which I just didn't believe in anymore. It was bad time.

However, since switching to LHP I have been more mindful of what I say and let people know. I can refer to my spirituality to certain people and hint at it but I never let them know the truth and as for relationship wise, I am keeping it a secret until it would behoove me to hint at it. I have also re-defined what I want from relationships and my ethics in approaching them thanks to my conversion to LHP. It's made me more in tune with my desires and my personal ethics and aware of what boundaries I would wish to remove.

I really haven't had any relationships since then but my personal approach in pursuit has drastically improved in both how I feel about it and hopefully how effective I am as well.
"“I ate civilization. It poisoned me; I was defiled. And then," he added in a lower tone, "I ate my own wickedness.” -Aldous Huxley

Setamontet

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 01:55:12 pm »
Hey folks, don't get me wrong, I'm not bitter about the past.  And even though some of you may think being 47 is old, it's not!  Hell, I feel like I'm 27.  8)  I've got plenty of time to discover and explore many other women, and with the experience, knowledge, and wisdom I've gained, I may very well find that right one.  ;)
« Last Edit: October 14, 2017, 02:03:10 pm by Setamontet »

"Arise is your glory, behold the genius of your creation, and be prideful of being,
For I am the same - I who am the Highest of Life." - The Word of Set

pi_rameses

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 11:41:05 pm »
In relation to this topic, there are some creative proposals directed at the relationship challenge. I am starting to like the idea of keiyaku kekkon or a marriage contract. Dating by matching personalities is one thing. But what if as an alternative, dating by that criterion was forgone. Instead, partners would be matched by terms that they would accept from one another from the very beginning. I am imagining a religious clause here that allows me freedom to do as I feel to be of benefit to self-transformation of my psyche. And vice-versa for the partner whether a path such as mine or otherwise. Of course, this is predicated on the assumption that humans are capable of abiding to terms of agreement. And certainly, the contract, while for a lifetime, should allow for modifications over time for extenuating circumstances.

Source: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xJMG2iHCZQGWPhVQ9fd4eZrrf8MsTNFfmmMS0zsdflE/mobilepresent?slide=id.p
« Last Edit: October 14, 2017, 11:47:19 pm by pi_ramesses »
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Sutekh

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 12:29:23 am »
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I'm afraid my possible women drop tremendously by way of being LHP and was wondering if that's been the case for you, no matter your sex or sexual preference.


This has always been a main concern of mine concerning the subject of a girl finding out who you really are. I haven't really dated and nor do I have a girlfriend.

 But hypothetically if I found a girl at school who was average to average maybe a bit religious I would keep my beliefs to myself if she would keep hers to herself.

If my girlfriend wanted me to go to a Christian Church, I would still go to show my support even if their is a huge gap between opposite paths. I wouldn't even mind if she took my kids to Church as well.

When it comes to raising a child and finding out my true beliefs, it would rather be hard for me to be honest with her.  Because I wouldn't know the outcome of her reaction.

« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 12:43:00 am by Sutekh »
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Sutekh

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 12:32:42 am »
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I just recently left a very long relationship (all for the better) but of the three things I'm worried about (likes porn, likes light bondage, likes Satan) this is by far the biggest one.

You're not the only one, I am not to terribly worried about my secrets that I like. I think most girls nowadays might be all right with the kinky stuff, generation usually changes.  I am not to sure about the "Satan" thing, I guess it all depends if she is tolerant to that.
"Our collective ambition is that the membership of the Order of the Serpent also serves as guardians of the Black Flame and collaborates with the Prince of Darkness in the Infernal Mandate of re-creating the Cosmos in the eternal glory of the Setian Will!"-Setamontet

pi_rameses

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 12:46:02 am »
I hear you @Sutekh . Realistically, it wouldn't be socially acceptable to bring up the idea of marriage contracts without sufficient time dating a partner. But I think it would be the difference between sticking with someone for several months to at least a year to determine if it could work rather than having stuck it with someone too long only to find that their values deviate from yours and perhaps that they had different opinions on the kind of school she wants her children to go. Even further, are children in the terms to begin with? For me, the outcome of different opinions would be more acceptable than a radical difference in values.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 12:51:14 am by pi_ramesses »
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pi_rameses

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2017, 10:41:25 pm »
Ladies, any perspectives that you don't mind sharing?  :)
« Last Edit: October 27, 2017, 10:43:31 pm by pi_ramesses »
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Rougue

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2017, 04:55:06 am »
Ladies, any perspectives that you don't mind sharing?  :)

In my opinion, a relationship is a chance to see yourself better/see what your values are. Matching yourself with someone who you want to be more like/admire traits of.
Matching with someone who would judge yourself in a way to make you feel like you need to hide, is a constriction, and not my cup of tea.

Therefore, not searching but waiting for the right person to come along is key, it is all about timing.

I am open about my love of 'creatures of the night' and 'exploration/testing boundaries' , it is a part of my phyc at the moment. How people perceive this is their issue - take it or leave it. Others are always going to find things to 'judge'.

I am attracted to someone who is on the path of Truth, however it looks for them. As long as they are questioning and growing, I am keen as mustard.

« Last Edit: October 28, 2017, 04:58:34 am by Rougue »
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pi_rameses

Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2017, 05:04:30 am »
Yes. I like that. While we may have similar experiences, our perception of reality may present itself as varying shades or gradients that no two people will have an identical one. This, however, does not deter me from trying to pierce the veil and peer at reality in of itself. I regard perception as part of my subjective universe whereas the reality is the objective universe. Both encompass truth to me. Neither could be another way of looking at it. Or one or the other. I prefer those options in that order that I've stated. As a Pyrrhonian I prioritized neither before both. But currently as a Setian, I prioritize both over neither.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2017, 05:10:57 am by pi_ramesses »
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