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Kapalika

dealing with excessive pride and anger
« on: August 11, 2017, 04:04:30 am »
A repost from another forum:

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I have realized I need to sort out my excessive anger and pride. I have felt cooped' up at home and tomorrow afternoon plan to wander in the woods and wilderness near my home for at least about 24 (if not 36-48) hours to reflect on these two things.

A friend on the forum here has given me a Naraimha mantra to focus on... I figured I wanted maybe something outside of Shaivism to focus on would be "fresher" but I'm open to any matras or deities.

I will leave tomorrow about 12-13 hours from this post after an errand... so about 20:00 or 21:00 GMT. If anyone knows any good mantras or things to consider... please give them.

I will leave with adequate clothing, water, my maala and other supplies. I've not decided to bring food or not. I know the land. I can often hear cars far away (hills carry the sound) in the areas I plan to bring a charged cellphone that albiet no service can call an emergency number if I need so. So please do not worry about me! I will be not far from people just far enough to be away to focus on myself.

So again if anyone knows any mantra I could use or try, please let me know. I will use this time to meditate and reflect. Thank you.

I will try to report back after this time period.

Maybe you guys know of some Satanist, Setian or Luciferian mantras or invocations? I don't want to exceede my human limitations in image but perhaps a counter to consider... sometimes we go run away with our egos, self image or pride... you know what I mean? I wanna keep perspective and truthfulness.. just the Luciferian in me speaking.

I think I've become too prideful and giving into anger and letting it rule me too much. Not that either is wrong, but if I feel I have no choice but to act on either... I'm ruled by it rather than ruling them.

So with that... if any have any suggestions before I go feel free to offer them.

I think taking the time away with some music, mantras and the like in the woods secluded should help me... very much in touch with the ancient "eastern" LHP but of course you guys know that's my bias to start with :p
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 04:06:46 am by Kapalika »
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Deidre

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 06:40:35 am »
From what I've been learning this week, it would seem that the LHP is very goal focused, even if the goal is just a very private one. So my opinion only, while it will help to meditate and seclude yourself for a while, what is the goal? I feel that this path is helping me to get to the root causes of some of my fears, for example. It is the root cause of your pride and anger that you need to get to and quiet time alone will help you to focus inward as to where it's coming from. I think that pride and anger are healthy if they don't overrun our lives etc. Once you figure out where it's stemming from, you can work towards resolving it. So perhaps asking out loud "why am I angry? Help me see why I'm angry" will bring you answers. Wishing you light and peace as you go today to sort things out. <3
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 06:42:09 am by Deidre »
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pi_ramesses

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 07:30:08 am »
I concur. Thought such as "What do I want to do with my excess in pride and anger?" "Do I want to bring it down a notch? Do I want to eliminate it altogether? Or do I want to modify or re purpose it somehow?"
Pro omnis dominos viae sinistra, sic atur ad astra
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Kapalika

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 11:25:10 am »
I don't want to feel swept up and over come by it. So much lately has gotten to me including Christians intimidating our city council into denying a non discrimation ordinance just like our current but exapandng to veterans, orientation and a couople of other groups that would of meant I can breathe easy about not being fired or evicted just for who I am.

I'm so fed up with assholes and theocratics that I feel belligerent. I need to get a grip on myself. I need time to get under control.

Maybe when I am humbled by nature around me  I can put it into perspective and direct  my anger better when I don't feel such blind rage.

I'm just tired of all the bullshit around me and I don't want to make it worse if I'm not at least a little smart about it. I need some time.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 11:28:59 am by Kapalika »
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Deidre

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 01:55:38 pm »
That sounds like something worth being angry over, though.
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Kapalika

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 04:30:32 pm »
It is but I feel overwhelmed by it. And not just that but other stuff too going on.

I feel a little weird reading this topic. I was totally wasted when I posted but I reads like I'm totally sober o.0

I had to push it back a day though, didnt realize how wet the ground still was after the storm yesterday and im having a hard time finding my tent xD (mostly for hair safety, dreadlocks aint no joke when it comes to being on the ground)
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Setamontet

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 04:31:05 pm »
I don't want to feel swept up and over come by it. So much lately has gotten to me including Christians intimidating our city council into denying a non discrimation ordinance just like our current but exapandng to veterans, orientation and a couople of other groups that would of meant I can breathe easy about not being fired or evicted just for who I am.

I'm so fed up with assholes and theocratics that I feel belligerent. I need to get a grip on myself. I need time to get under control.

Maybe when I am humbled by nature around me  I can put it into perspective and direct  my anger better when I don't feel such blind rage.

I'm just tired of all the bullshit around me and I don't want to make it worse if I'm not at least a little smart about it. I need some time.

If it is something you feel very strongly about, perhaps organize and direct your anger and rage towards this group of Christians collectively in the placing of a curse upon their intimidating efforts.  Focus and direct your anger and will in a cathartic release during a conjuration of destruction upon them.  During the working, let it all out, scream, shout out an elaborate conjuration of curses upon this group of mundane intimidators.

I usually don't recommend curses, but they can and do work in extreme circumstances, at least in my experience.  And it is a great Magical way of unleashing and relieving oneself of excessive anger and directing it towards the antagonizing source.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 04:33:33 pm by Setamontet »

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Kapalika

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 04:34:24 pm »
I don't want to feel swept up and over come by it. So much lately has gotten to me including Christians intimidating our city council into denying a non discrimation ordinance just like our current but exapandng to veterans, orientation and a couople of other groups that would of meant I can breathe easy about not being fired or evicted just for who I am.

I'm so fed up with assholes and theocratics that I feel belligerent. I need to get a grip on myself. I need time to get under control.

Maybe when I am humbled by nature around me  I can put it into perspective and direct  my anger better when I don't feel such blind rage.

I'm just tired of all the bullshit around me and I don't want to make it worse if I'm not at least a little smart about it. I need some time.

If it is something you feel very strongly about, perhaps organize and direct your anger and rage towards this group of Christians collectively in the placing of a curse upon their intimidating efforts.  Focus and direct your anger and will in a cathartic release during a conjuration of destruction upon them.  During the working, let it all out, scream, shout out an elaborate conjuration of curses upon this group of mundane intimidators.

I usually don't recommend curses, but they can and do work in extreme circumstances, at least in my experience.  And it is a great Magical way of unleashing and relieving oneself of excessive anger.


I think I need to do some working while I'm out there, ya, that would be a good way to not let it control me so much.

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crossfire

Re: dealing with excessive pride and anger
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 05:05:06 pm »
Here's an article I wrote a couple of years ago about transforming anger.  I hope you find it helpful. :)


Project Hephæstus' Forge: The Left Hand Path, Wrathful Emotions, and Greater Black Magick
Wednesday, October 14, 2015
 Anger doesn't seem to get any respect.  Many people try to avoid or repress the negative emotions like anger, envy, and jealousy, because they can take over your mind and influence you into negative behavior. However, some people get some sort of satisfaction from these emotions, in spite of the negative influence they have on our minds. Repressing these emotions can lead to extreme behavior when they finally do surface, so repression is not a satisfactory option. Satisfying these emotions as they arise makes you a slave to them with only short term satisfaction and often with long term problems that will have to be cleared up. So is there another way of dealing with the wrathful emotions? Indeed, there is. 
One aspect of the Left Hand Path is to examine the more negative aspects of your personality in order to understand them and transform them into something more satisfactory, so let's take a quick look at them to get some understanding, and then apply a bit of reasoning that may lead to a way to transform them.
The wrathful emotions are based upon dislike, and are useful in removing or getting around unsatisfactory obstacles. You can approach obstacles from an intelligent manner and skillfully resolve them, or you can try to use force to smash through them. Anger will give you an adrenaline rush that could be channeled into force, but is there another way to channel this extra energy? Let's examine anger a bit more closely:
When you are angry, the accompanying adrenaline rush not only energizes your body, but it also energizes your mind. Before you became angry, your mind was relatively clear and calm, like a lake or a slow moving stream. However, a myriad of energized emotions screaming for attention can quickly turn the calm waters into a cloudy, boiling rage that is anything but clear. {Blind rage} With an energized body and a clouded mind, it would seem that the option of dealing with obstacles by force would be the only way, as it is difficult to go the intelligent route by examining the obstacle when your mind in such a state. Your clouded state of mind is an obstacle to the intelligent route. {Wait a minute--aren't wrathful emotions useful in removing or getting around obstacles? Indeed they are!} 
Your first obstacle to deal with is your clouded, boiling raging mind. Direct the energy from the adrenaline rush there first, and remove the clouded state of blind rage from your mind first. Then you will be able to think clearly enough to take the intelligent route for the external problem. {You apply Greater Black Magick to yourself, first, and then you turn to the objective universe ;)
Anger is a quick and strong emotion. It can quickly silence the other disturbing emotions within your mind to still the boiling activity impeding your ability to think clearly. Once the mind has been cleared, the rush of energy can then be channeled into mental activity in order to find an intelligent solution to the external problem, instead of resorting to force. You have overcome not just one obstacle, (the external problem,) but two obstacles (counting the obstacle of the clouded mind.) When you realize and appreciate benefits of this, the disturbing emotions will welcome and respect anger, and energy will not need to be expended in silencing these disturbing emotions, as they will be pacified by anger. However, when this point has been reached, anger doesn't seem to resemble what it used to be. It has transformed so much that even the name "anger" doesn't seem to fit anymore.  So, what has this emotion formerly-known-as-anger become? What name would be suitable for this force that can quickly clear the mind, yet super energize it as well? {Wow! It sounds almost magickal, huh?} I have some names for what a thought-pacifying-mind energizing force can be used as a basis for, including:
⦁ Mushin (Zen)
⦁ Samatha (Eastern religions)
⦁ the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Rupa Jhanas (Buddhism)
⦁ Shyine (Tibetan)
⦁ Samadhi (Eastern religions)
⦁ Pure Awareness (Advaita)
⦁ Clearing the Grounds to Alaya (Yogacara)
⦁ The Magickal Trance described in Peter J Carroll's Liber Null (Liber MMM)
⦁ Kensho (Zen) 
The only real name that I have come across to describe this transformed anger is Great Mirror Wisdom. (If you know of any other names for it, please let me know.)  Whatever you may call it, it can be the platform/basis for all of the spiritual practices listed above and more, as well as the more down-to-earth tool for dealing with mundane obstacles in everyday life. So, even if you are not spiritually or magically inclined, it is still worthwhile to apply Hephæstus' Forge to your anger and transform it for the clarity of mind and problem-solving ability it gives in everyday matters, as well as liberation from being enslaved to its more base expression. 
Free your mind!


"Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you."
~Carl Jung