Author Topic: Revolutionary Ideation and LHP  (Read 270 times)

Kapalika

Re: Revolutionary Ideation and LHP
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2019, 12:22:18 am »
I try to not get too political but this does touch on some topics that have directly affected my life and I've seen many different social strata in my time.


Here are a few questions to bounce off of (answer at your pleasure):

1. If you had to describe your relationship with the ruling powers of your society as you understand them, would you say that you are aligned with them, opposed to them, or indifferent to them?

Opposed yet aligned in that I think it needs serious reform, as it's been sliding into corruption the last few decades and it's causing the country to decline.

2A. If you are aligned with them, is it in an active or a passive way? In other words, are you be willing to offer resources in support of the ruling powers and elites (aka Funding, Political Action, Military Service, arguing on their behalf) or not?

I would work for the county or state, the federal government sure as a day job. Not the military though. There are a lot of occupations within the government that you could do good work. If I were to join the military, I would probably be forced to join California's National Guard because I probably can't join the federal military being transgender. It used to be okay, I mean, most transitioned only after service, and every trans person I've met who served was more than capable. I know 3 former military transwomen and all could kick just about anyone's ass in town. A transgender person was on SEAL team 6 after all, we aren't push overs actually we are usually above average as we know how to deal with so much over our lives.

2B. If you are opposed to them, is it in an active or passive way? In other words, are you willing to engage in taking definite revolutionary action (undermining their influence, funding revolutionary movements, exposing state secrets, and speaking against them) - or not? (Passive revolutionary- will offer support when the revolution comes along, but doesn’t play a roll in actually brining it about)

I support all whistle blowers and have nothing against our RIGHT to protest. I believe that people got to stop feeling bad for literal nazis when they get punched or whatever, as nazis literally want to kill people. I don't encourage punching Nazis or others like that, but I feel no sympathy and I do not morally condemn it even if i condemn it as a bad strategic move tha and discourage any resistance that would violate the law, unless said laws are designed to suppress our guaranteed rights to peacefully assemble and protest.

That all said, America didn't become America by asking the British nicely to let us go. Our Founding Fathers threw people's tea into the port, ect. It's on some level part of our American nature.

3. Do you think that citizens live in fair and equitable circumstances under the current ruling powers?

No. No system is perfect, but we clearly see our allies in the rest of the developed world faring far better. Corporate interests have overtaken everything from the military to healthcare, and with corporations as legal "people" this has gotten worse.

As a result to this and the growing monopoloies, America is projected to be economically surpassed by India and China by the 2030's

4. Do you think a better system than the current one could be created in terms of the welfare and circumstances provided to the citizen? If so, what do you think the chances are of this coming about?

Yes, we see this in our allies. At the same time, we spend way more in our federal budget on healthcare and social security than we would with more sane systems closer to what we have seen work in our allies'. Even a Koch-funded study found that we would spend less tax dollars than now if we went to single payer. Not saying there can't be private options, those will always exist.

5. How long do you think the power structure of your society will last before being destroyed or reformed into something radically different?

Probably within my life time. I would say it could range anywhere from the next 5-30 years if things don't change soon. A lot will depend on if we reach a constitutional crises with the current administration, which is still a possibility.

6. Whether you are in alignment with, opposed to, or indifferent to the ruling powers of your society, do you think that political violence is ever justified or necessary to advance these views?

Rarely and only in the context of succession (American Revolution ect) or overthrowing a literal authoritarian, non-democratic society that refuses desired reform. We aren't the French after all with a kazillion revolutions but they had their own problems too.

7. In your experience, does LHP ideology push people in one direction or the other (in terms of evaluation of political leadership). Alternatively, has it done so for you?

I started out as a hardcore Liberterian, but being poor and seeing that hard work does not equal success changed my mind pretty quickly. I've seen all sides, lived in upper class, middle class, lower class and poverty homes and had friends from all of them. I've seen how getting on disability and welfare works and where people get stuck in crap jobs or after going to a good college. I've experienced and seen a lot.

My conclusion is that my LHP instincts tell me that ya, hard work and willpower are necessary, without them you go nowhere. Yet at the same time, luck and other factors often out of our control play into it. Coming from wealth gives you a clear advantage in a system where healthcare and education have upfront cost.

Our current system is basically a nepotistic oligarchy republic. A true meritocracy, where people's success is more directly related to hard work and skill, can only be obtained when there is more opportunity for everyone. We already see this in, for example, Scandinavia where they have the highest amount of rich people per capita, yet live in a so called "democratic socialism" system.

And again, if we took from their systems what was good... we could cut spending anyway by spending *smarter* rather than brute force more. The irony is that in trying to limit the amount of help it becomes ineffective and costs society a ton more in the long run. Look at how much it costs to house a homeless person versus the amount it costs in hospital stays and various social services... (mini homes are less than half the cost annually). There's been a lot of progress made in "house first" programs as often having a place stops the catch 22 of homelessness (lots of places don't like to hire homeless). Or how much more it costs to house a prisoner (40k per prisoner) for drug possession instead of putting them into rehab. Things like that.

I'm fairly certain I only defined what the western left hand path as it is understood by the Herald of the Dawn.

No?

You touched on it in reply #6 however no big deal I've said my peace.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2019, 12:25:52 am by Kapalika »
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Lyscii

Re: Revolutionary Ideation and LHP
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2019, 06:00:01 am »
1. If you had to describe your relationship with the ruling powers of your society as you understand them, would you say that you are aligned with them, opposed to them, or indifferent to them?
Opposed.

2B. If you are opposed to them, is it in an active or passive way? In other words, are you willing to engage in taking definite revolutionary action (undermining their influence, funding revolutionary movements, exposing state secrets, and speaking against them) - or not? (Passive revolutionary- will offer support when the revolution comes along, but doesn’t play a roll in actually brining it about)

Passive. While the idea of revolution does have some appeal in my head, I realize that most people around me are too apathetic or brainwashed for it to be a reality anytime soon. And revolutions don't have a history of always getting the desired result.

3. Do you think that citizens live in fair and equitable circumstances under the current ruling powers?

Some do, many don't.

4. Do you think a better system than the current one could be created in terms of the welfare and circumstances provided to the citizen? If so, what do you think the chances are of this coming about?
Absolutely. The government could do a lot more for the average citizen if we weren't wasting our resources killing people overseas or giving money to oil companies, among other things. I think it's possible we will see a few steps taken in the right direction after the 2020 election, but it won't be anywhere near enough.

5. How long do you think the power structure of your society will last before being destroyed or reformed into something radically different?
25-80 years. I don't think our current crisis will topple it. Pressure from climate change and resource scarcity will grow and grow as time goes on, but I see our system clinging on as long as it possibly can.

6. Whether you are in alignment with, opposed to, or indifferent to the ruling powers of your society, do you think that political violence is ever justified or necessary to advance these views?
I have yet to form a solid opinion on this. I personally don't have plans to be involved in violence unless I feel it is truly necessary for my own well being.

7. In your experience, does LHP ideology push people in one direction or the other (in terms of evaluation of political leadership). Alternatively, has it done so for you?
My impression is most LHP people are more critical of individuals in power, whatever view they have of the system as a whole. I feel like I'm a bit more informed than the average idiot when it comes to politics, but not up to the level of most of my peers. As I start to take LHP thought more seriously, I feel inspired to study politics to better my understanding of the world around me, and to actually be capable of defending whatever positions I may hold.