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General LHP Discussion / Re: Thoughts on death
« Last post by Setamorphosis on Today at 02:12:04 am »
@King Mob ,

I've done past-life therapy before. I'm not sure if it's worth it. I'm more inclined that the experience is induced thanks to suggestions (your own expectations of a past life + your therapist's guidance). You can affect dreams with suggestion, so I don't see why this wouldn't fall into the same category.
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General LHP Discussion / Re: Thoughts on death
« Last post by Setamorphosis on Today at 02:10:31 am »
I think there are 3 possible outcomes that occur after death:

1. Oblivion. No experience, no sensations. Nothing. Forever.

2. Reincarnation but not immediately. You may first end up as a worm, a flower, or whatever, and then human again. But this new human that you become is not you. It will have completely different characteristics from who you used to be; therefore it's not the "old you."   

"You" will only have yet another experience on this planet, but you'll be a completely different being, essentially.

3. You fall inwards. If there is an after-life, I doubt that it occurs somewhere externally. Rather, I think that after death, one would fall into their own subjective universe - kind of like an astral realm, if you will. And experience whatever their mind conjures up. Willfully or otherwise.
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General LHP Discussion / Re: Thoughts on death
« Last post by King Mob on December 12, 2017, 11:22:19 pm »
I've actually been thinking of trying some past-life therapy, honestly.
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General LHP Discussion / Re: Thoughts on death
« Last post by King Mob on December 12, 2017, 11:20:57 pm »
I'm sorry about your loss, @Deidre.

I recently expereinced the loss of my grandmother as well so if you ever need to talk, feel free to since I can relate.

Death is weird topic for me, I don't know how to process it. I've always been morbid and viewed it differently. It's not as big of a deal to me as it is to others but at the same time, it's still a huge deal.

I don't think I've properly processed the concept because my emotions and beliefs on it change radically but its not a shift I'm *in control* or like my othe shifts of conciousness.

I used to think the big nothing was preferrable to any afterlife when I was really depressed. I'm really out of that phase and mortality is kind of, scary at times, again but I try keep a memento mori around. I can have no definitive belief on the after-life, but I like the idea of reincarnation- that one makes the most sense to me and gives me comfort.

Nonetheless, I hopre you're doing alright.
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General LHP Discussion / Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP?
« Last post by King Mob on December 12, 2017, 11:13:37 pm »
@Frater V.I.M.  I would agree with your school of thought, I always viewed Crowley as a trickster archetype. While I'm not a huge fan of the man(other than being a thelemite), I fucking love his sense of humor. That seems like a very Crowley thing to do.

He also seemed to take great joy in subversion. Like when he gave an explanation for why his name The Great Beast 666 roughly translates to "little sunshine" in court.
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Journals / Re: Journal of King Mob
« Last post by King Mob on December 12, 2017, 11:10:26 pm »
@Deidre  Thank you! That's actually pretty meaningful to hear since it's from my favorite (living) artist's illustrations for my favorite story. :) It's his take on Dr. Frankenstein.
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Lounge / Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Last post by King Mob on December 12, 2017, 11:08:39 pm »
@Rogue


Agreed.
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General LHP Discussion / Re: Thoughts on death
« Last post by Rougue on December 12, 2017, 10:59:21 pm »
There is many different types of death,
the most common 'types' are death-life cycle and death-space cycle.

death-life is a dying that then makes room/gives way for more life to come through
death-space is a dying that then makes more space for.. erm.. space ;p space is everything/nothing.

We can look at the 'law of thermodynamics here' The law of conservation of energy - "This states that energy can be neither created nor destroyed. However, energy can change forms, and energy can flow from one place to another"

Everything is breath, as there as a inhale from a 'source' there is 'death' (which is 'life' for 'source'), which turns into a exhale which is 'life'. This can liken to death of ideas, structures, not just 'matter'..


Death is really cool XD
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Lounge / Re: LHPers, have you had any relationship issues related to the path?
« Last post by Rougue on December 12, 2017, 10:31:54 pm »
@Cabshear

"The current culture is working to position the genders against each other by fabricating a spectral enemy." -I agree with this.

Although, your write up seems to be dripping with distain towards females...

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What can we do? We can lift each other up.  We can show by example. We can loose prior judgement and take every situation with a fresh pair of eyes.
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General LHP Discussion / Re: Thoughts on death
« Last post by pi_ramesses on December 12, 2017, 09:38:17 pm »
I've seen it as two ways - neither of which I'm sure whether it will answer the ultimate question. It started when I read Brief Peeks Beyond by Bernardo Kastrup.

One way I've visualized death is as a declenching or release from local identity into the global cosmos or god. So yes, to die locally is inevitable but to die globally spells the end of the universe. The body disintegrates. If there are other aspects that are immaterial (psyche), then that unites with the Absolute.
This is the RHP version that I held for some time.

As for the second one, it is not so dissimilar in terms of components. Just different in outcome. The first way seems to beg the question: if an identity can declench, then can it be clench so tightly that it does not dissolve? Or can it reclench after dissolution into the whole. I see it as an interesting phenomena. Have you ever seen whirlpools in a stream of water?

EDIT: It's quite natural to have different views on death. They are generally unfalsifiable.
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