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I started a new job. I believe in God, and thought that he led me to this job. It seemed to happen effortlessly, and I prayed about it. But, I'm not happy lately in this job. I know no job is perfect, but I feel like for the past few weeks, I've been working as hard as I can, but with little return. (I'm in marketing)

So, I pray for strength, and I ask God...what should I do? While I know he cares (this is my belief) I feel like he doesn't decide for us what we should do next, when faced with adversity.

How do you process adversity, in your belief system? How do you know you're doing the right thing or on the right course, when you make decisions?

Just wondering.


Probably the hardest thing in being spiritual is eventually leading to the understanding that when you are suffering you needed to. :D

Though my deity is different than yours much later on I learned that he was suffering with me, like a father watching over a child would empathize with their struggles. Whatever the current challenges are, they are important to make you into what you are growing to be. How we have to learn these lessons is different for us all, but sometimes there is no easy way. If your connection with God is solid, then you'd be aware of that... I'm just mentioning it in case you are more "belief-y" than in communication. I don't mean that in a judgmental way, nonetheless, it's we all process these things differently and our interface to the divine is shaped to suit our nature.

With Satanism, the difference is only that we know we are responsible for our actions and also the agent of the solution. We hope that Satan would lead us to the answers, but sometimes we're left to tough it out to make us stronger. I'm not mad with Satan when it doesn't work out as with a little bit of thought I can see where better choices could have been made. If the choice was taken away where'd be the fun in life anyway? :D Anyway, such trials are simply tests with the goal of becoming a spiritual adult, if you will, and the higher powers are teaching you how to fly; you can't be in the nest forever, metaphorically.

None of us truly knows if we are the right course, but there is nothing gained by doubting oneself. Make the best decisions you can and if you regret it later simply vow to never repeat it. That's all you can do anyway. Take the lesson, warts and all, and do something useful with it.

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Lounge / Re: Second Edition of my book and quoting the forum
« on: October 10, 2018, 08:47:33 pm »
If I posted it anywhere it was meant to be seen. Exception PM's. :D


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Other Religions / Re: From indoctrination to the path to freedom
« on: October 10, 2018, 02:51:07 am »
Freedom doesn't exist, you're always a slave to something - often yourself. Don't kid yourself, everyone is dogmatic - even if they claim they're against dogma.

Just reductio ad absurdum here... "You can't be free because then your belief in that freedom would bind you." Or, some such nonsense along those lines.

If you live by a set of rules or values that you've constructed yourself that's not dogma; especially if those tenets are defensible by reason or modifiable in the future. It seems you should research the meaning of the word before you use it. :D

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The Christian Bible is way, way down on my "things I think I should read someday" list, so all I know about it I've picked up from popular culture... However, I've conversed with people who were brought up church-every-Sunday Christian and still consider themselves religious and found that I know things about that book that they don't.


Yeah, some of us didn't have a choice. Five years of parochial school, before that about six years of Saturday classes. (Four hour long classes, not one hour.. lol) Even with that being said, none of that shaped my perception of Satanism or Satan -- I was rejecting Christian beliefs before I even hit my teens. I remember having to attend my confirmation and thinking to myself, "Is there some way I can get out of this?", at about age 13. I decided it was a pretty meaningless ritual in the end, and that it made the family happy so whatever. (I absolutely had no belief in Catholicism by this time.) I wasn't even aware that Satanism was an actual thing until I ran across TSB at a bookstore. I bought in in front of my mother, so I never really bullshitted my parents in regard to my interests later either. They've known for a long time what I am, and never treated me any differently for it.

On your other points, there are plenty of Christians by proxy as I like to call them. They may feel they are atheists, but live entirely by Christian morality and subjective understandings of the world. I find the concept amusing. :D


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Many Satanists don't grow out of Satanism because they don't develop an adult understanding of Christianity and cling to their childhood understanding of the Bible, which becomes part of their shadow - repressed identity that causes immense fear and hatred. Taken to the full extent, Satanism then becomes a terrorist ideology promoting intolerance and the stamping out of other's beliefs and the lack of acceptance of the differing of beliefs not shared by the Satanist - aka, the primitivism they mistakenly think they've escaped. I've seen it browsing even this forum, I won't name names but it's built into the very identity of the Satanist ideology - hence threads like this backed up with newagey explanations.

What part of Christianity are we supposed to value: spiritual servitude, hypocrisy, hatred, bigotry, or the close-mindedness? I'll pass. From my point of perception Jesus was somewhat like a village idiot, it's just that the people standing around him were even dumber than that.  Of course, presuming there was such a person in the first place. It's far more likely he is a fictional character based on a real guy named Apollonius of Tyana.

Strangely enough, I'd venture that most Satanists know the particulars of The Bible better than Christians; as they provided the reasons for the rejection of it in the first place. Anyway, I think this is a case of Poe's Law being made manifest. Mockery or humor poked at Christianity is not indicative of any sort of intolerance. From my perspective, this is similar to hating children because they believe in Santa Claus. It certainly won't stop me from having a laugh at their expense, naturally, but it has nothing to do with hate.

I'm not sure you understand what Satanism is, since there are a literally as many variants of it as there are individuals involved in it. That even remains the case with various groups or apparent divisions. Discussing these nuances is a subject for another thread, but the short of it is that generalizations are largely useless. There about three or four core concepts that Satanism universally embraces, after that you're going to end up playing the straw man game. You can't make a case for your argument when its initial premise is based on logical fallacy.

If you believe Satanists are terrorists you really don't have a place here in this sub-forum. This place is for learning about Satanism, Satanists talking with fellow Satanists, or sharing your experiences with it. If those experiences have nothing to do with the subject of the thread, make your own, but don't hijack someone else's. Needless to say, I do find it amusing that you prattle on about how much Satanists hate. You start slinging words like terrorist or primitivism around and truly believe that those ideas have something to do with Satanism. Your intent is abundantly clear to me -- dehumanizing and criticizing people you barely understand. My guess is you're a part of some religious whack job group who has to save everyone's souls because you've got the truth. You're carefully avoiding that subject (though admittedly, I tried to bait it out of you in the previous posts), but don't think I don't notice the dodge. Anyway, you're not fooling me. So, if you have nothing practical to add to the subject of the thread then kindly piss off.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Advice for buying quality LHP books
« on: October 09, 2018, 01:41:00 am »
I don't want to keep spending money on duds. But I also understand that I need to put in the leg work to really earn a proper education. I am willing to do what I need to in order for my pathwork to continue.

First thing to realize is most of them are similar or the same, there really is no reason to spend much. Most of them are literally copy-paste or rewording of something else. All of the classical grimoires are public domain and can be had for free, so no reason to buy those ever.

I guess from us to recommend more relevant books or information I'd have to know something of your interests in the first place, and right now I'd simply be guessing. There is a good list here off the main page in the library, but we could pare this down to some more relevant info with a bit of feedback.

Anyway, remember that the LHP is a practice not simply a philosophy; what you read will never be as relevant as what you are doing. It'd be far more valuable and productive to master a few simple techniques or implement core principles in your life, rather than emptying your wallet. There are more books in existence than either us could read in our entire lives. We could take it upon ourselves attempt to accomplish that impossible task, or realize that fact and start working with what is in front of us. There is really no way other way to separate the wheat from the chaff.  Occultniks are basically grouped by the drivel they make money writing about, so just because there is more of it doesn't mean it's useful. Most of the stuff published by Red Wheel/Weiser or Llewellyn are complete trash, so I'll save you a bunch of money there. :D


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I say, get all the so-called "blasphemy" and hostility built up from your Christian upbringing out of your system and then go ahead and learn Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek etc and study the Bible academically and historically. It's actually very interesting to study in depth without the modern newagey nonsense that many Christian sects preach. I'm not a Christian but Satanism for me desensitized me to the Satan/God false narrative and gave me a reason to get to know the Bible. In Judaism, it's only IHWH - existence itself is just IHWH experiencing itself and perfecting it's (not "He") own self-creation through a long cycle of reincarnation towards final self-containment back in the Garden Of Eden (Heaven). It's so different to the Christian narrative but it's beautiful.

In the famous words of Bill Hicks:

“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.”

It applies to Judaism, pure-Christianity as much as Hinduism and Buddhism etc.  :)

Such a rite has a lot of different purposes conveniently hidden behind a simplistic exterior.

1) It is an act of lesser black magic reaffirming the identity as a Satanist to one's psyche. Often simply reminding oneself of their values is cathartic and removes many issues related to self-realization. It's a statement of intent, clear and succinct.

2) Utilizes techniques from Neuro-Linguistic Programming to modify one's own behavior through a working methodology. This is the point of the visualization components of the ritual.

3) Addresses the conditioning of the mind directly by confronting one's own demons, so to speak. The point being to pave the way for many breakthroughs moments.

4) Premeditation of intents, destruction of items, and whatnot are straight out of the low magic or folk magic playbook. These methods used here because they are not complicated, but still efficacious. In many cases, this may be one of the first rituals a Satanist is directly involved with; anything more complicated is likely to veer off the mark.

5) All of this is sort of wrapped up in a theurgic magic burrito (the prayer/devotional component) that appeals to the macro-cosmic powers that lay outside of oneself. Whether you view that in terms of forms, archetypes, or an actual divine being by the name of Satan it has psychological shock effect. It probably works better if you suspend analysis and just do it, so to speak.

6) It is simple to adapt to other LHP beliefs, you simply need to modify the frame of reference and give it a go. There are many other rites of this nature, but they are overly complicated and do not focus so well on the essential properties.

7) It is a symbolic, spiritual, and mundane act of rejection. The effect ripples throughout one's being in ways that you probably wouldn't be privy to without. The goal of Satanism is liberation in all regards, not only the context you currently understand. This is sort of a set-up to future success along these lines.

What is absolutely not important to the rite is the scholarship of The Bible, it's legitimacy, the good-evil dichotomy, or even my views on Christian theology. I completely disregard The Bible as having any value -- in a factual historical sense, as some sort of moral guide, or as containing any truth period. Likewise, I consider the Abrahamic faiths derived from Judaism and that as well as completely useless and irrelevant. I also hold no stock in trying to second guess the intents of the authors of such material and use mental gymnastics to twist their meaning into something more palatable. Apparently, that concept doesn't bother you but I find it abhorrent and disingenuous; thousands of years have gone into the interpretation of those texts by people far more in the know of those religions than you or I. The only way you can turn any of that into something useful in a context outside of the theological understandings of the religions is to take a very arrogant posture of presuming you know more of what their intent is than they do. Their manifestations are far more important than the books which inspired them, in my opinion, and herein lies all the problems. Your assertions may be valid, but they are unsupported by any faith or belief inspired by those texts. It seems like your understanding is similar to Baha'i or something Theosophy would espouse, but in both cases they are infected with over-generalization to the point of conceptual absurdity. The only way to make an argument that synthesis, in this regard, is valid is to simply whitewash and downplay the points of contention. It's basically deluding oneself and reaffirming one's own confirmation biases at that point -- the bias being toward synthesis where none exists in reality.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Reading Koetting's "Evoking Eternity"
« on: October 07, 2018, 08:49:05 pm »

- reducing the amount of tools (dagger, chalice, circle,...) one uses once one is firm in the psychological/spiritual effects one uses them for to perform those without them (makes a lot of sense to me - as mentioned before, to me physical tools for spiritual operations seem quite like crutches; I might still need some crutches, though, and having recognized them as such doesn't make their use easier).


I've never used any tools, because if my psyche was fragile enough that I think I need them for some protective purpose I probably have no business doing it. Secondly, I don't do circles or use much of the classic methods of doing anything. I probably have reduced the usefulness of classical occultism to sigils, seals, and chants. (or enns, if you prefer)  Protective circles and weapons are for people whom can't work with spirits/deities amicably -- it always backfires, just as you'd expect. You'd be amazed how easy it is to get cooperation when you aren't a douche. Circles show fear, weapons show hostility, and ordering around cosmic level beings just makes you look like an ass. I prefer to cultivate a friendly relationship, ask for guidance not favors, and not be too demanding. This has carried me a lot further than when I was using the methods of ceremonial magic. I, ultimately, leave it up to them whether they will help or not because I rather that than have them working against me silently.

I think Koetting sells the sizzle to the bad mofo crowd, but honestly I've got a much simpler method of ritual working and anything extra is simply a lack of focus. Evil is a relatively meaningless word since it is subjective, but he's selling books to people who are in awe of his LBM. :D I don't suffer from the affliction, as I can see from his presentation his emotional state is very egotistical and condescending. It doesn't show the character of someone advanced along these lines, just a petulant adult-aged child. It seems like he has absolutely no awareness of what they feel and he is ordering them around from a precarious fear-driven position. He figures if he cracks the whip more it'll be more successful. Following his advice would give you some very bad habits that actually would interfere with your ability to work things out to your advantage.

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Movies / Re: Last Movie You Watched
« on: October 05, 2018, 09:28:03 pm »
Badadook, sucked, next.

Crack watching Damien series now. :D

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I love wiggling these under the noses of those who believe that God will forgive anything and everything.

😈

I don't necessarily believe in their theology, but this is sort of a psycho-spiritual cleaning process. It's just in the case where some small bit of their previous conditioning exists silently lurking in the psyche. Using the conditions of The Bible to to reject it is one part fun and cleverness. Despite the simplicity, I recommend people do something like this at least once. It's all about manifesting one's intents.

Personally, I don't believe in Jehovah at all -- I think he's made up, but I do believe in the shackles of  dogma lurking in one's being. The true enemy, if you will. :D

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Current Events / Re: LHP political systems?
« on: October 05, 2018, 02:15:00 pm »
Are there any non-Right Hand Path political systems or parties? Even historically?

Nope.

I look at all political ideologies simply as tools. Though, admittedly I lean anarchist/libertarian on most things. I grew up, I don't need government parents.

These are just functionally just other religions... Not a sheep, not interested... When I vote it's because the person happens to be doing what I want. Screw their parties.

I'm a Satanist and left-hand pather in all things. :D

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Other Religions / Re: From indoctrination to the path to freedom
« on: October 04, 2018, 12:42:36 pm »
No worries. I just have to remove my name from the Book of the Elect when I was confirmed. And also deregister from the parish membership, which I have been been absent from. It should be implicit but going through it explicitly helps.

I reposted this from RF: http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?topic=899.msg7642#msg7642


Hopefully, someone finds it useful. :D

I never went through the formal trouble of removing myself from Catholic association, not because I was planning to come back but because their thoughts on the issue were meaningless. :D All belief starts and ends with one's own thoughts and feelings.

A meaningful "Rite of Blasphemy" is far more injurious to your former association and uses the dogma you were subjected to as a weapon against itself.

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Satanism / The Rite of Blasphemy aka The Guide to Going to Hell Forever
« on: October 04, 2018, 12:36:46 pm »
Since there seems a lot of interest in Satanic Rites as of late I went through the trouble of summarizing one of mine -- Feel free to use it as you see fit. Feedback always welcome.

EDIT: This is a re-post of a very old article on RF. The fun crowd moved here and the subject came up in another thread I thought it would be useful here do to it's nature. The purpose of the rite is to formally reject the beliefs you've been subjected to. You could modify it to any faith, it's just a framework. It's even pretty useful in the context where there are some residual beliefs remaining. I'm a theistic Satanist, so it's written to that direction but I have no doubt you could modify it to work for anything. I don't believe in The Bible, but this is just in case some part of you does unknown to you. A spiritual sanity check, if you will. :D

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The Rite of Blasphemy aka The Guide to Going to Hell Forever


Introduction

I may first caution the reader in that this procedure is powerful and irrevocable if done in the right frame of mind. This has permanent effect and its purpose is to cleanse the remaining inhibitions from your soul so that it may be purified in darkness and by fire and dedicated to Satan. This should not be attempted if you would possess any regrets if you were to do so. The best time to do this is once you know this is your path and you are never going back. You may even repeat it occasionally if you feel the need to reinforce your beliefs. If you are not a traditional Satanist then you may modify the prayers below to fit your viewpoint, but I am what I am so this how I write.

How we're going to hell...

Apparently, there is only one way to make sure you are going to hell; you must blaspheme the holy spirit. We may as well quote the Christian bible here and make sure we are driving the point home. Whether or not there is a literal hell is irrelevant; the point is that you will never be able to be turned back to Jehovah.

Matthew 12:31-32

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Mark 3:28-29

28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.


Now, there are all sorts of exemptions for clauses where you may have been in anger and said harsh words so what we are going to do is called premeditated blasphemy. We are going to make an effort to acquire things for the rite, and spend several days thinking about it before we engage. This should be done in a way that any of this information from the bible was true there would be no going back. You must intellectually, and spiritually completely reject the faith which you are blaspheming without any reservation, and know that no matter what your fate it is better than that of an eternal slave!

The holy spirit unfortunately a rather nebulous thing especially since most of us have learned of this in our youth and its rather formless and nonspecific. The holy spirit basically has four classic traits:

It has a mind and is a person!
It bears witness to Jesus
It intercedes (speaks) between the saints & Jesus (when he was mortal), and Jehovah (the father)
Is symbolically represented by a dove.

This concept needless to say is a rather ridiculous one from the start that aspects of a god needs an intermediary. I am sure you can find plenty to reject and insult at this point. The holy spirit seems mostly concerned with delivering the message of the Hebrew god whether its good or bad or whatever. Any questions not made clear here can be explained somewhere on Google. Determine what this means to you and what you dislike the most about it. On to the ritual framework!

Ritual Items

You will need to obtain three symbols or offerings of the faith which you reject. These can be crucifixes, bibles, pictures of Jesus, or anything else that will burn. Anything that is a symbol of that religion that can be destroyed or defiled is usable for this purpose. It is important that you go through effort to acquire these things since that supports our premeditation clause. Obtain a black or red candle to be used during your prayer and meditation.

Rejection

You shall repeat this for three days in a row... Why three? It traditionally is the number of success. It also may be helpful to reinforce your act of retraction a couple of times.

The Prayer or Plea

Light the candles. Face the west, and pray to Satan to assist you in overcoming the false Christian teachings you have been subjected to. Use your own words, and make a point to address the things that you have found particularly troubling and contradictory. The more upsetting to you the better... Take your time with this really get into it. You should do these things verbally... I have found that the inner layers of our psyche are much more receptive to sound.

Renounce The Trinity

Face east. Spit. One by one, renounce Jehovah (or your name for him), Jesus, the holy spirit, and Mary (if you are Catholic). It is best if you use your words for this. Take your time and feel free to swear, curse, and exorcise as you will. See and feel your ties to these things being destroyed. During this process you may destroy one of the pieces of junk you have obtained in any manner you enjoy.

The Prayer of Acknowledgment

Face west again. Pray again in your own words and thank Satan for his aid and liberating force. Whatever that means to you makes the best prayer. Put out the candle... and you are finished!

In Closing

There remains another reason to do this ritual -- it is possible for others to pray for you on your behalf. As long as you 'can be saved' technically you can be redeemed by the acts of others possibly! When you die you may not know where your body ends up or it may not be handled with your wishes in mind and then you shall have a priest performing last rites over you. To most Satanists this is a completely disgusting concept and this process of rejection shall forever take away any effect of this. Once you have followed this process there is no way back no matter what other people may do to you. Of course, you may decide that you don't believe in all that; well that's OK, then consider it a symbolic rejection.


Hail Satan!

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Satanism / Re: What terms properly insult a Satanist's character?
« on: October 03, 2018, 03:34:18 am »
Or don't. Your time is yours to do with as you will, but I suspect individuals attracted to this forum come and stay out of some desire for knowledge, amusement, or a combination thereof. Thus a thread of amusements and knowledge (even if it's useless to some) does not seem out of place.


I think the subject of effective persuasion is something most people are completely oblivious to. It's not merely presenting a reasoned argument, but doing it in a sympathetic way. You can be absolutely right, but counter-productive at the same time. At that juncture, the listener may not feel you are correct but at least the problem wasn't in your presentation.

Injecting the insults into your speech will probably cause the listener/viewer to perceive the commentary as a negative appeal to emotion, a threat, and likely an unfounded notion. That's why I feel it's so important to steer clear of this in common speech/text.

Amusement at another's expense is just mental masturbation unless it was in the context where all involved were in on the joke, so to speak. If we're better than the Christians and other cults of conformity then we don't play the bully card even if we're smart enough to use it. If our ideas hold merit then they succeed on that -- there's no reason at all to shame, guilt, or make others feel stupid. If outsiders perceive us as a bunch of poison-fanged vipers they're not going to bother learning about the LHP because it isn't worth it to them at that juncture. They're just going to change their perception from, "That guy or gal is an asshole." to "All those LHP-types are assholes.", because our actions fit their analysis. Admittedly, my views on this are probably at odds with the mainstream of the LHP who think the asshole-ish behavior is perfectly fine but where I diverge it's simply in the spirit of the effectiveness of the communication. It's not that I haven't laughed at a few off-color comments or jokes.

And, though it has nothing to do with this post, might I suggest you stop using 8 point fonts (or smaller) on your text some people have 14" or less laptop/tablet screens and they're practically invisible.

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Satanism / Re: What terms properly insult a Satanist's character?
« on: October 02, 2018, 07:47:40 pm »
Insults to intelligence and heredity are universal, but what are your favorite insults to the character or personality of an insultee on the LHP? Bonus points for those which sound like compliments to the uninitiated or RHP practitioners :)

None.

I find no value in insulting anyone personally. I seen this thread and had to reread it several times because it's so fundamentally not in my character. My values lie in teaching those that don't understand, and to do that I have to avoid invoking the backfire effect. An insult will not provoke any response other than, "Hey, that Mindmaster guy is a real asshole." Much of this is addressed in a practical sense in my article that will be forthcoming in TIS, "The Plague of The Satanic Hegemony".

At my very core I want the absolute freedom of Satanism to be made manifest to all -- not squandered. I seek to be a beacon of that philosophy and give everyone a chance and it's not about my ego. It's bigger than me and just not mine. I think if you are truly an advanced being you do not get involved in this trivial bullshit, you rise above pettiness because the cause you serve is greater. The only person you impress with these antics is yourself, and then the delusion begins. You start waging an ideological war with no concept of the true cost. Who is admired for their intolerance? No one. :D

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