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Satanism / Re: anarcho satanism
« on: June 21, 2020, 08:08:54 am »
It's still a myth, in terms of actual violent crime. That time you mentioned was during the civil war, not the classic "wild west" time period. I imagined a shit ton of crime was happening then given the war and all.

Also last I checked government doesn't have much to do with culture and "economic progress" is usually an apparatus that controls the state not the other way around.

Violence is stopped by being armed?  I mean, there have been places and times (even entire societies) without anyone with a monopoly on violence and things were alright. Really the only difference between a government and a bunch of dudes with guns enforcing arbitrary rules is how much people agree on them being "legitimate".

Satanism / Re: anarcho satanism
« on: June 17, 2020, 05:43:05 am »
That was the old west and people gave that up because it was a pain in the ass.

Funny enough that is a myth about the wild west with a few incidents blown up, and gun control was in full force back then there. Actually, the coal wars back east was a lot more violent than the wild west ever was.

So, basically governments are a product of wealth (and actually necessary to have it to some extent) and taxes are just a fee we pay for the convenience of not having to take care of all of the bullshit we aren't really interested in doing. You're going to gain this benefit even as a Satanist so I'm not sure where the argument lies.

There could be some kind of public infrastructure maintaining apparatus without a state, I believe. People could even make a job out of it. Of course, I am thinking in terms of local communities where there is probably some standard within that occupation. I'm not sure how much a small region is considered a "state", say if things were broken down to county levels essentially.

I'll have to think on the rest.

Satanism / Re: anarcho satanism
« on: June 10, 2020, 07:12:30 am »
The more I think about it, I think the ideological appeal is that it allows more self-determination for local communities and by extension, individual people.

That said I have chewed on it more and I am wary of the ability for anyone to set up some kind of regime if they have enough firepower and manpower (I think we would see Christian, patriarchal societies where women and minorities are 2nd class citizens if even that). Imagine the number mormon-like settlements in the middle of nowhere in America with young girls being forced into marriages with much older men who have many young wives, but with no outside force able to help those being abused.

That's my main concern, and about as concerning to me is the lack of any kind of environmental oversight. What stops Mc'Bob from dumping waste or chemicals in the river and hurting everyone and all the wildlife and ecosystems downstream? At what point is someone storming Mc'Bob's place to forcibly stop him okay, and if people have the power to do that, who would decide who and when these things can be done without it invariably leading to the formation of a state? It can make sense for local communities over smaller areas I guess but there is some tendency for humans to put things in boxes and try to govern them and make systems they can exploit for personal political power.

Just some thoughts I have to ask and look into. If anyone reading this knows anything about anarchist theory please feel free to enlighten me.

Lounge / Re: my lover drew me <3
« on: June 10, 2020, 07:01:46 am »
I didn't realize/see there was an art thread.

I just assumed the "?" meant confusion why it was here.

It's Satanic cause' in it I'm wearing basically my fav black craftcult shirt and the pentagram ear rings. Me and my partner are both LHP. And ya we been together for about a year and a half.

Lounge / Re: my lover drew me <3
« on: June 08, 2020, 10:51:23 am »

It's cute, satanic and accurate okay? I thought people might appreciate it here.

Lounge / my lover drew me <3
« on: June 06, 2020, 08:18:43 am »
With my fav shirt and ear rings too that I wear a lot and my legion of necklaces represented as well with my half jata and bangs :)


Satanism / Re: anarcho satanism
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:43:06 am »
Idgo I feel like you are defining anarchism way too broadly. It lacks a state, which is a united political community that holds definite territory.

Essentially, as I understand it an anarchist society would be extremely decentralized. Anarchy is *not* lawlessness.

The Iriquios confederacy is actually something I asked my friend about. I don't remember exactly what she said but it was more like an alliance between tribal nations (note in my previous post I said tribes and nations, I was trying to indicate that not all of them were an anarchist analog).

I think the interest for me as a Satanist is that an anarchist society would more closely resemble humankind in it's "natural state" without the abstract apparatus of strong government. Like, closer to a more "animal" like state. For some satanists, there is a certain appeal of primitivism and survivalist living. I personally want to see some kind of synthesis between that and modern industry that is not just environmentally sustainable but gives a net-positive effect. I believe that life is the apex of Satanic energy and wish to see complex untouched ecosystems flourish and humans generally do their best to repair the earth and avoid further damage. We are literally in a mass extinction event that we are causing. I think that de-centralized production could do this, and that something similar to 3d-printers will ultimately make this possible.

Also anarchism, even with settlement councils would lack a state that controls vast amounts of territory and that divides up land for people to own. In such a system, there would be personal and private property but the idea that some type of abstract entity can own things wouldn't exist. People wouldn't own land per se, they would use land, and have the rights to use it in a certain vicinity of where they lived and worked.

Consider that the Bible is a book of laws, describes histories of judges and prescribes governments. It justifies slavery, forced abortion, documents yahweh's sanction and order of state performed genocide and it advocates one to pay their taxes and obey authoritarians.

My friend also mentioned some kind of linguistic root between demagogue and demiurge which makes sense but I can't seem to find info on what exactly it is.

I think what my last point here is, is that as a kind of anti-thesis to Christianity, Satanism does a very poor job of uncritically accepting all the modern trappings of a state without considering what elements of it might of been historically formed or influenced by Christian thought, beyond some degree of desire for more draconian measures for certain offenders (which is in itself more Christian than people realize, given it's history).

Satanism / Re: anarcho satanism
« on: May 31, 2020, 09:40:47 am »
As I understand it, anarchy would still have communities ruled by councils and such. Rights would usually be protected by the end of your own gun.
One way it was recently explained to me, as I understood them, (by a LHP practitioner) was that before colonization, a lot of Native American tribes were essentially an analog to anarchy. I don't know a terrible amount about how various tribes and nations ran their societies but they existed for at least centuries and there were about 50-100 million Native American peoples in 1500, compared to Europe's population at the time of 90.7 million, living in monarchies and such.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around anarchy, but on some base level I think it might but I still am not exactly sure what if any ties Satanism should have to a concept of a state. I mean, hell, people lived in anarchist societies for most of human existence, it wasn't until after farming was invented that anything resembling government even formed.

Satanism / anarcho satanism
« on: May 19, 2020, 11:40:08 am »
Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the intersection of anarchy and Satanism, not specifically anything like anarcho-capitalism, anarcho-primitivism or anarcho-communism but more generally just the idea of "statelessness" or hostility to nation states.

I mean, I know a good bit' about and have a lot to say about the intersection of Satanism and (chokes in disgust) far-right ideologies like white supremacy, I've even seen some good examples of the intersection of Satanism and communism and have some thoughts on that too.

But you'd think Satanism would at least on some level be at least more touching on the same themes of anarchy. It seems strange to me that Satanism's critique of civilization would stop at the way it assigns morality and views pleasure and taboo.

For me, I've not seen a lot of examples of anarchist Satanists, and I don't know enough about anarchy in general to really make any comments. I dunno, just been something I've been trying to wrap my head around since in a lot of ways anarchy resembles liberterianism to me, and while I am curious about anarchy I can't seem to help but in my head use the same critiques for both.

I'm not really looking to make this a political debate about what system is "better" or a "vs" kind of discussion, just trying to figure out what political systems are logically consistent with any given form of Satanism or what unexpected quirks might arise from their intersections. So more of a "from this perspective" kind of discussion. I really don't fancy political debates :/

Lounge / Re: how yall doing the last year?
« on: May 11, 2020, 04:11:40 am »
Ya I guess I thought it would mean it would get a bump in activity lol

As far as my income it's been overall busier than I would of expected but they keep trying to cut hours but then they keep asking me to come back in or stay extra. Between a $2 pay differential and them occasionally asking to stay past my 8th hour into overtime, my average monthly income has roughly held the same. I suspect in June when the pay differential ends I might see a big drop in my income until the week of the 4th of July.

I hate my job. (looking for a better one after the pandemic I think)

Lounge / how yall doing the last year?
« on: May 06, 2020, 06:43:56 am »
I noticed the forums don't seem so active lately and just kinda wanna check in on everyone.

How are you all doing in life? How are coping with Covid's unique challenges during this time? (I don't want anyone to argue about opening up the country i just won't read if you do ya'll should know better). Read any good books, do or write any music? Creative projects or LHP discoveries? Just wanting to know how everyone's been doing.

As for me personally I've been absorbed in my own life the last year or so that's why I've only come once in a blue moon, but things are starting to settle in for me. Been 3 months since I finally found an affordable lease by an actual landlord after months of couch surfing and a crazy 16 month story. That's all in the past now though. I managed to decently furnish my small apartment, recoup it after tax returns, built a new PC, now getting new audio monitoring stuff so I can have better gear than ever. But of course covid19 is stressing me the fuck out because no one social distances and I really don't want to be out of work or in a weird situation given how this small apartment building is set up.

So ya, just checking in. And if anyone has any ideas how we can liven things up in here, I'm all for doing to see this community flourish :)

General LHP Discussion / Re: Pretenders of the LHP Throne
« on: May 06, 2020, 06:29:06 am »
lol ya ive seen a few satanic/Illuminati themed scams before. I would bet money they would send a fake check and ask for a small amount (2k, maybe 3k) to be sent back somehow. Then later the check would turn out to be fake but due to how banks work (stupidly) with checks it would initially go through. Had a roommate who fell for that once.

Only really was gonna comment I tend to use the term "pretender to the throne" as a disparaging remark about yahweh/yeshua's claims of creator/god of gods status. The implication of a pretender to the throne I guess would be authority in general, and it's funny to think of LHP organizations pretending to be on the throne and calling others pretenders to the throne in something so uncentralized in belief as it is.

That said, obvious scams are obvious.

Lounge / Re: Analog Modular Synth Sinister Frequencies
« on: April 06, 2020, 01:24:48 am »
Melias  that is pretty awesome. Can I ask what kind of sounds you were doing? I don't think I have anything that the patches could work with, but a recording or general description might give me an idea.

I've made some wicked/evil sounding stuff that almost seems to have otherworldly aspects to them, I think, personally, that it takes a magician's touch to make that potential come out. I tend to do this on the scale of entire songs however, but never tried it for evocation (for some safety reasons, primarily, both when composing and people listening lol). I've always been interested in music magic (for lack of a better term).

I'll read through the link you gave too.

Lounge / Re: What are you doing right now?
« on: April 06, 2020, 01:20:53 am »
was playing guitar a bit ago after finally fixing my amp (again). who knew it would help me lift out of my depression more than I would of thought?

Current Events / Re: How are some of you handling this Corona thing
« on: March 21, 2020, 03:37:16 am »
Welp, I should of done some prep for the Apocalypse while i had a chance. California is locked down lol

Time to become an anarchist.

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