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Music / Re: Moderately cheezy 'occult' musicians
« on: October 06, 2018, 04:45:18 pm »
I wouldn't say that he was "cheezy", but Graham Bond had released some good albums based on Thelema:
Love Is the Law (1969), Holy Magick (1970), and We Put Our Magick on You (1971).

It sounds bluesish almost bordering on gospel. All about Thelema and better than I had described them.

I'm actually really digging that, thanks for sharing it.

Other Religions / Re: From indoctrination to the path to freedom
« on: October 05, 2018, 12:47:07 am »
I was baptised but I guess it never held any real significance to me so I never saw it as an issue.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison
« on: October 04, 2018, 12:01:55 am »
Found Flex Mentallo pretty easily, though I don't really like reading online I will since I don't have much other choice that I've found (yet)

If anyone is interested I can upload the full Invisibles to Google Drive or something, but you need a CBR reader for the files.

EDIT: Forgot to add the link

Down the rabbit hole I go then

Other Religions / Re: From indoctrination to the path to freedom
« on: October 03, 2018, 10:43:23 pm »
Personally I came from a heavily Christian upbringing.  As well as I can remember, we started out as Church of Christ, moved a few churches, and eventually wound up at a Southern Baptist church.  At one point we attended a church which had a special youth group known as the Royal Rangers.  Not sure if anyone is familiar with them, but they have an interesting logo.

Each point represents something different, and we were expected to memorize all of it.  There was other odd stuff they had us do but I honestly can't remember most of it.  We didn't last very long at this church as it was more geared towards middle-upper class folks in the area, which we most definitely were not.

By the time I was in junior high I was WAY over all of it, so it didn't take much to push me into the idea of anything that might oppose the status quo.  After going through atheism, 'satanism'(I had little to no understanding of actual Satanism, I was just keen on pushing against the current), and agnosticism, I finally found my way to the ideas of chaos magick and luciferianism.  This was some years ago, and I never really put any of it to practice.  I just recently decided that it's time to actually try and forge my way down this path.  I guess it was just so simple for me to leave everything in Christianity behind because I never really FELT anything. It was all just monotonous follow the motions type garbage to me.  My mom was never really opposed to me finding my own way, but I also never really provided any details of 'my own way' other than it not being Christianity.  My father always fully supported me no matter what, and would gladly listen to me ramble on excitedly.  We spent a lot of time tripping together and had more than a couple odd experiences.  He introduced me to a lot of amazing concepts, and psytrance which eventually got me looking into Hinduism and Shamanism fairly heavily for a while.  All in all it's actually been pretty easy for me to break away from my initial programming, and I've always tried to be open to the possibility of new ideas replacing my old concepts rather than clinging to them for some sort of nostalgia or general bullheaded-ness.

Other Religions / From indoctrination to the path to freedom
« on: October 03, 2018, 04:10:53 pm »
I have a friend who has been raised as a JW his entire life.  I was completely ignorant to their actual beliefs until just recently when we had a long discussion about it.  At one point I had asked him how it felt to follow his religion yet also entertain certain things that it forbids, and he replied that he understood the consequences and fully accepted them.  At the time it made no sense to me, because I didn't know what those consequences actually were.  In our recent discussion I was actually talking quite a bit about some things I read in the Symbolism of the Serpent thread on this forum, and I asked him if he believed that the Christian interpretation was a scare tactic, to which he replied 'No, but I do believe hell is a scare tactic'.  This is when I found out that JW do not believe in hell.  It brought more light to what he had said before, and he confirmed that he believes if he does not follow his religion to the tee, when he dies his soul will simply disappear, and those were the consequences that he had accepted. 

I went on to talk about the Left Hand Path and various parts of Luciferian philosophy, specifically the remaking of the self into a god through various means.  He seemed incredibly interested, but kept telling me that everything he had ever been taught was practically screaming at him in his head the entire time.   He's a very open minded person and I think the discussion went pretty well all things considered.

Is it likely that someone can overcome such indoctrination and seek true knowledge?  Most people seem blissfully ignorant and content in their bubble even if they are aware that there's a whole storm of liberation raging outside of it.

Changed the topic title to something a bit more fitting since the general idea of the thread is a bit more open ended than just one particular set of beliefs.

I recently met back up with an acquaintance from high school and apparently during high school I actually heavily influenced his decision to become atheist.  At the time I was hairline deep in whatever edgelord counter-culture type ideas I thought might offend at least a couple of people, so I was pretty outspoken about my disdain for Christianity specifically, but all religion at the core.  Eventually I made it past that stage in my growth and opened my mind to many new possibilities and interpretations.  This guy didn't.  He's definitely what I'd classify as a 'new atheist', and even though we can level on some discussion points, it usually degraded into him bragging about how he wrecked a theist in a 'debate' on a facebook group.  I've dealt with other people like this as well, and it can definitely be tedious trying to have any kind of actual discourse, to the point where there's no real reason to even attempt it.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison
« on: October 03, 2018, 01:06:17 pm »
After reading the summary of The Filth and from your description of the transition, I imagine it's a wild ride.  Fortunately (or not) for me it was relatively easy to find.  Flex Mentallo however, I'm not having so much luck.
I fully intend to take this journey.  If things are too crazy, maybe I'll be aware enough to bail.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison
« on: October 02, 2018, 06:02:40 pm »
I also took the time to read wiki entries on the various comics and realized that I was mistaken about him illustrating it, which isn't that big of a deal.  The whole series is still phenomenal regardless of who drew it.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison
« on: October 02, 2018, 05:05:36 pm »
So you're saying I need to read two other series to fully understand it?  Because I'm 100% down, I just have to find the PDFs  or CBRs somehow.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Just read Chaos Protocols by Gordon White.
« on: September 26, 2018, 06:35:12 pm »
I think this is actually the path I'm finding myself on, though not in regards to economics specifically.  It's similar to programming as well, which I've been convinced is my 'way out' for a good little while.  You have to take a problem and break it into many small pieces so that it's eventually it's easier to understand.  I think I'm following correctly at least, if I'm off please do let me know.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison
« on: September 26, 2018, 06:28:52 pm »
I'm actually a really big fan of The Invisibles.  I remember it happened in a pretty weird way.  I just happened to be skimming torrent sites for comics, because why not, and one with a ton of seeds was The Invisibles.  I had never heard of it before, but the name stood out and after reading the brief description I was 100% down.  So I snagged it and a few others, got a comic book reader, and started at it.  About a year later I still hadn't quite finished it.  Odd things were happening whenever I would read it, strange little serendipitous references in everyday life mostly.  Later I read some articles talking about it being a hypersigil and how it's not uncommon for odd things to happen while reading it, so that made sense.

Once I made it to the final section though, things started breaking apart I guess?  It became really hard to follow and it was like I was just trudging through it because I absolutely had to finish it.  I still don't think I fully understand the ending, and I haven't made the trek back through it..though I plan to eventually.  All in all Morrison's art style is amazing and his writing is just as good if not better.  Very mindblowing read from an amazing artist.

This video appears to be a story from Sacha Baron Cohen about Liam Gallagher though >.>  not sure that was intentional?

Music / Re: Moderately cheezy 'occult' musicians
« on: September 26, 2018, 05:16:17 pm »
I guess the main thing is that it's all just new-style 'phonk' which has existed for quite a while.  Pioneered by rap group Three Six Mafia, the Phonk sound was gritty and lo-fi, and occasionally had references to occult-type aesthetics.  Lil Ugly Mane is another artist that keeps the lo-fi sound going with plenty of WILD occult references and hard hitting lyrics.  It's not something you're gonna hear on the radio, but it's well worth searching for.  His style can be a little off putting for people who are accustomed to a certain style, and that's understandable...but if you give it more than one listen it might actually grow on you.

Lounge / Re: was followed by a car tonight
« on: September 26, 2018, 02:06:11 pm »
That's absolutely terrible, but not surprising in the least.  Definitely carry some form of protection.  While I'm not an advocate for police, I would agree that contacting them might be in your best interest...though  I doubt they'll do much to help.  Extensions of the state aren't usually very sympathetic towards the plight of transwomen.

When I was presenting female I never really had much threats of violence, but I live in a fairly small town.  Please stay safe and crack some skulls if you have to  ;)

Lounge / Re: Intro
« on: September 13, 2018, 04:07:48 am »
Thank you both!

Music / Re: Moderately cheezy 'occult' musicians
« on: September 13, 2018, 04:07:20 am »
I definitely had no intention of knocking Marilyn Manson, and have enjoyed the majority of his work...I'd say up to and including Golden Age of Grotesque. 
Slayer on the other hand, well I loved them as a teen, it really pissed people off, so why not.  I can still appreciate what they did for metal in general, but I'm really working to move past listening to things for purely nostalgic reasons and instead constantly expanding my musical tastes and collection. 

As far as the lyrics go, he has other songs that make odd specific references.  John Dee would be another good example. 

I wake up in the morning feelin' like I'm John Dee
Got my black magic book and drew a circle round me
Bish, I wake up in the morning feelin' like I'm not me
I'm a beast, I'm a killer, I'm a young Crowley

One of my friends is actually a Jehovas Witness, though he's not active.  I asked him how he felt listening to music that, at some times, literally advocated things explicitly prohibited by his religion, and his response was that he was well aware of the consequences and fully accepted them.  This seemed an odd answer to me, and maybe it's the 9 year gap in age (he's 20 and I'm 29) that muddled communication a bit.  Why would someone continue to classify themselves as something so strict, yet blatantly disregard the teachings and/or restrictions?  I feel like it's partially because of the goofy nature in which the concepts are delivered, making them almost cartoonish.  In the same way someone can appreciate a horror movie regarding exorcism while others are tormented by the dramatic images.

Personally, I mostly listen for the instrumentals.  I'm a big fan of heavy hitting bass and it puts me right in the head space I need to be in.  I've also always really been into boundary pushing metal, so the parts that are thrash and grind -esque really get me going as well. 

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