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General LHP Discussion / Downsides of a solitary path
« on: February 17, 2018, 11:08:43 pm »
I've noticed a lot of my problems come from my path being solitary lately. I mean there's stuff I can definitely fix on my own and still be solitary but some aspects that matter will not be the same.


I'd argue I should have self-motivation and dedication anyways. It's hard to remember to balance that motivation equally to mundane and spiritual life and it can be hard to come by at all on some days. It can be easier when you have someone that will check in on you periodically even if its just a social call cause as an extrovert, it sucks to not have anything new to talk about.


It's hard to have that enthusiaism without someone to compare notes with. It helps you know if you're on the right track or not, course-correct. You learn alot from colleagues. The more I narrow my path down, the harder this comes to be. It's good to have someone to point out things you miss as well.


Collaboraitive process has a way of jump starting creativity.


As terrible of an idea as grades turned out to be in mystery schools in practice, I can see the want for the concept now. People around the same world view to talk with because while I'm not any type of prodigy or something: most of the people who I end up talkng to me about this are dabblers and it can be hard to relate or know how to converse about it with those people.

Movies / Re: Sci-fi and philosophy
« on: February 17, 2018, 10:59:01 pm »
@Frater Sisyphus

I really love Black Mirror, season 4 was....disapointing? It had some really cool ideas but I think they made the season too long. A lot of the episodes are more fridge horror than gut punches now which there's nothing wrong with. There's just a fundamental creepinesss to the Black Musuem and concepts there we know is wrong and sticks with you but to me, it doesn't have the same impact as say: focusing a hour on a bleak take on a capilalistic society with a ___ Got Talent type show and telling the bleakest love story in it while making this fictional society a thinly veiled comparison for the type of culture we're creating with reality television and the interent.

This first 3 seasons minus, like one episode, is must-watch television in my opinion and it's all really relevant.

I think my favorite thing that season 4 brought was with the emergence of a shared type universe- 3 episodes together(the trekkie, black musuem, and the dating app one) really started to question how AI would feel and behave in that society on microscales but it feels slightly fantastical compared to the earlier episodes.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Weekly or Monthly Skype discussion
« on: February 16, 2018, 02:16:24 am »
Count me down! I'd try to make time in my schedule with it for sure.

Movies / Re: Last Movie You Watched
« on: February 16, 2018, 01:20:58 am »
Has anyone seen the new Bladerunner yet? I might finally watch it. Speculative fiction is best sci-fi, so is cyberpunk.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP?
« on: February 15, 2018, 06:49:49 pm »
Vision & The Voice is beautiful, but I regard it as one of his magickal diaries which is fascinating reads for multiple reasons but one I don't let influence my core philosophy/view of Thelema. In fact, it seems to have becomes tradition in Thelema for one to perform their own scryings of the 30 aethyrs and record their own findings which are more personal to them. Still, a lot of Vision & The Voice is key to Babalon- but I find Jack Parson's workings more interesting in that regard. I don't think Crowley had the personality to really channel a dominant feminine archetype fully. Parsons on the other hand, well, he was a great a man and had his own set of problems but he seems much more receptive to that kind of energy.

I've still yet to read Konx Om Pax. Liber ABA is the volume with magic and theory in practice right? It's definitely very useful but I've found a lot of modern authors have simplified the basics of magic in much more useful ways since then particulary in chaos magic fields.

General LHP Discussion / Re: The main goal and path of magic?
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:52:34 am »
For me I take union with the higher self/daemon etc which in terms means living your life to the fullest and expressing your self and enacting your true will.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP?
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:46:13 am »
I really like your approach to Crowley. Book of Lies and Book of Laws are really the two core books for me and serve me well in those respective ways. A analyizaton of the rituals in Book of Lies was an integral moment in progressing my path even though I didn't realize it at the time and I agree that Book of the Law is a sacred holy text. Anything else by Crowley is a curiosity where I'm concerned but a commentary worth readiing if you have any similar inclinations. I like the old british wealth culture Crowley represents too from a historical standpoint. Not the stuffy kind but the one who uses their money to actually experience life.  Reading his diaries is kind of like reading any anthropologist or adventures of his time right down to the format.

I had a similar reaction to Onion Peelings as well. I find it hilarious now. So much of Book of Lies gets those different layers understanding as yoou progress in your path too, the chapter is almost like the key too Book of Lies.

That David Foster Wallace quote, I actually cut off and continues with "find what you love...and let it kill you" which is probably something Crowley would agree with as well, although in a much different way.

Setianism / Re: Pentagrams in Ancient Egypt
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:36:17 am »
This is actually very common in a lot of ancient art in the middle east until the rise of monotheism. A lot of art and religion was very stellar based in the reigion, for whatever reason. It's worth noting that it seems unique to that area though. Go to maritame culture like the Minoans and Mycaneans and it's all focused on the sea rather than sky.

Source: I spent a whole semester analyzing pottery.

Gaming / Re: What are you playing?
« on: February 06, 2018, 01:59:39 am »
@Xepera maSet  I've heard amazing things about Oblivion, I need to play it. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not big on medieval fantasy settings so I stayed away from that series until Skyrim but it always intrigued.

Funnily enough, I'm playing Bethesda's *other* RPG series, Fallout. In my top two gaming series for sure, the other being Metal Gear Solid.

I'm currently playing Fallout 4 but I'll probably play 1,2, or 3 after I beat. I'm trying to cut back on it becuase I end up binging it on the weekends and regretting it. It's a hard game to only play for a few hours. My last session did end up with me wiping out an entire cult with a nuke then watching a guy I tried to arrest commit suicide so I mean, not a total loss of time.

Movies / Re: Last Movie You Watched
« on: February 06, 2018, 01:56:10 am »
There's a new Cloverfield on Netflix. I'd watch tonight if I didn't have school in the morning. If anyone views it, please let me know how it is!

I've been watching Doctor Who here and there when I get some time away from school and (now) work. Some nice synchronicities here and there with them but it's mainly just a nice way for me to relax and shut my mind off(which I'm gonna try to meditate more when I need to do that.)

Lounge / Re: Anyone here create any Occult inspired art?
« on: February 02, 2018, 08:03:29 am »
This is literally the first drawing I have done in years so I'm very rusty but this is the aformentioned drawing for a Goetic entity. It's my intepretation of Furfur.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP?
« on: January 31, 2018, 12:29:59 pm »
Honestly, the main reason I love the guy's writing so much is his sense of humor. It's has a pretty wide range of just being a dry blunt joke or some kind of clever world play and it's the main appeal to his writing for me. One of my favorite chapters from the Book of Lies is the following:

"The Universe is the Practical Joke of the General at the Expense of the Particular, quoth FRATER PERDURABO, and laughed.

But those disciples nearest to him wept, seeing the Universal Sorrow.

Those next to them laughed, seeing the Universal Joke.

Below these certain disciples wept.

Then certain laughed.

Others next wept.

Others next laughed.

Next others wept.

Next others laughed.

Last came those that wept because they could not see the Joke, and those that laughed lest they should be thought not to see the Joke, and thought it safe to act like FRATER PERDURABO.

But though FRATER PERDURABO laughed openly, He also at the same time wept secretly; and in Himself He neither laughed nor wept.

Nor did He mean what He said."

A lot of Book of Lies goes back to the zen thing. I think if you're appealing to his philosophy, and not his magical tech, Book of Lies is what stends up the most as it often goes into zen-like ways of stating stuff, but I'm not fond of all of it and prefer to separate The Book of Law from most of Crowley's philosophy within reason.

And yeah, I love the Trickster archetype a lot in many ways. I identify with it on some level strongly when it comes to magical practice so in that sense, I find it a bit easier to relate to Crowley's writings than most authors as it's shit I wish I was clever enough to write with some kind of similar antagonistic jovial mood. My trickery often comes from the practice of my magical style and how I interact with the cosmic universe and occasionaly people in my mundane life.

I always grouped AO Spare into chaos magic but hell, you could see chaos magic even has it's own split factions in a way with folks like Thee Psychick Temple and people who take a more Phil Hine approach or those that stick to Peter J Carrol's outlines and approaches.

I esentially take the Book of Law as declaration that the Aeon of Osiris is being destroyed to pave way for individuality with does of interesting prophecy to verify it and some elements personsal bibliomancy if one chooses to use in such a fashion. I see the Aeon of Horus and Set as the same in many ways as my image of Horus the Elder is one picking at the eyes of Jesus on the cross and I see Horus the Younger, the crowned and conquering child, of the individual who now was the right to pursue their free-will and grow into their deified self.

I largely ignore the Aeon of Satan as a.) responsible indulgence is already key to the Thelemic philosophy b.) I find irresponsible indulgence beneficial to no one including the self and just makes you a slave to something else.

As David Foster Wallace said:

"“If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It’s the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you. On one level, we all know this stuff already — it’s been codified as myths, proverbs, clichés, bromides, epigrams, parables: the skeleton of every great story. The trick is keeping the truth up-front in daily consciousness. Worship power — you will feel weak and afraid, and you will need ever more power over others to keep the fear at bay. Worship your intellect, being seen as smart — you will end up feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And so on.”

Lounge / Re: Who is this guy?
« on: January 31, 2018, 12:00:34 pm »

Other Religions / Re: Maat Magick?
« on: January 28, 2018, 01:49:03 am »
I'm EXTREMELY happy to see this being discussed. I really like the book but I mainly love the paradigm. I don't nesecarrily believe it, but I do plan on paradigm shifting into it. While I am a thelemite, I'm much more of a chaos magician.

So Aeon of Ma'at doesn't nesecarrily contradict Aeon of Set. Aeon of Ma'at is a FUTURE aeon in which humans have evolved to the point of having some kind of interconnected conciousness. In said aeon,due to the interconnection we are able to leave each other free to do their own Will without interference.

It sounds kind of hippy dippy and it is. Typhonian Thelema isn't really popular in regular Thelema but it's worth it's salt. I'd say it's much like Grant in general, since he was the one who brought it to public attention, in that it's got some really interesting ideas but don't get lost in the woo.

Now what makes it really interesting is you can tap into this future aeon in the present. So the present could totally be the Aeon of Horus-Set but since people live in various aeons in the present anyways, like christians still living in the Osiran way- you can tap into a future current.

They use the psychic connection as a current for group astral work, and while I never went all in, I cribbed one or two things from the books. I like the book's idea of shadow work a lot, honestly.

I still want to paradigm shift to it one day and with sucess take it a stip farther, if you can tap into that future could you tap into the current in a alternate future?

I have two copies laying around here somewhere, I just haven't gotten around to actually reading it. I started to once but it was dry compared to Lovecraft's later takes on similar themes.

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