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The forms, then, would have to be redefined in this context. The Forms instead of being eternal, could be aeveternal (had a beginning but no end. once they start existing they're eternal). They can also be changeless. These Forms, when reconciled with the Kalam cosmological argument, could be sort of blueprints or the agents for the things to come in the universe. Thoughts?

Is the Kalam cosmological argument (as expanded by William Lane Craig) compatible with Platonic Polytheism? This first cause being the cause of everything, including the forms? There is a term coined by medieval philosophers "aeveternity" which means had a beginning but has no end. Also, the forms do not cause something into existence, they are just transcendental principles into which things partake.

I know this is not what you believe, but I genuinely want to know if you think the Kalam cosmological argument can be reconciled with Platonic Polytheism?

General LHP Discussion / How often do you perform rituals?
« on: January 26, 2018, 11:36:06 am »
How often do you perform rituals approximately? Or, if you're into direct magick (vampirism, healing, etc) how often do you practice / perform it?

General LHP Discussion / Re: Controversial topic: Armanen Runes.
« on: January 15, 2018, 08:04:53 pm »
But do you really need a long historical lineage for your magic to work?

Absolutely not. Look at the Maergzjiran current. It's not a historically valid current (the clues are in the names, words, and concepts they use, which did not exist prior to the 20th century), yet it's damn powerful.

Look at the Lovecraftian current. No historical validity whatsoever, yet still pretty effect.

Look at all the people who work with Lucifer (as he is commonly understood in this day and age), who was not a historical deity of worship, yet still have success. Instead, lucifer referred to the personification of Venus.

Remember: Nothing is true; everything is permitted.

Take a breather. Then come back to magic with full force. During the preparation of the ritual, and during the ritual itself, take on the mentality that you are omnipotent. That you can do anything, that you can manifest your desires easily. Then, as you already know, pretend as if your desire has already manifested. Do something that's interactive but unrelated to magic.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Gods, My Pantheon, Some Musings
« on: January 06, 2018, 07:22:29 pm »
Well, a prayer could be seen as a form of invocation, so it's useful. Even if you focus on learning, a prayer here and there could be beneficial. But I get where you're coming from.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Gods, My Pantheon, Some Musings
« on: January 06, 2018, 09:32:56 am »
@King Mob , thanks for sharing!

Tell me, though, why do you think prayer to a deity is conflicting with you being LHP and esoteric?

Science / Re: Compiled Scientific Evidence in favor of the "Paranormal"
« on: January 06, 2018, 06:27:23 am »
Yeah, I know you've written the article, and have posted these links before, but I wanted to include them in this compilation, nonetheless. Just so that we have a go-to thread whenever we want the links to scientific articles.

@Frater V.I.M. , that looks very interesting, and could be a good case for necromancy, which I am skeptical of.

He shall be treated as so far behind the times that he can safely be ignored."

Hahahah wow

Perhaps I am indeed biased because I am working with the Norse gods.

Good criticism, thanks. I'll have to think about this and do more experiments.

Plus, if you truly ascribe to the Platonic form theory than you know that you can not -know- the entity, only have your own interpretation of them which would in turn create your microcosmic version based on unverified personal gnosis. Think of it as reading a book, you will picture the characters to look a certain way- and that's true in your microcosm but only there, the actual book its self is what it is in the macrocosm. Unless, you create a painting of said character and post it online where it gets popular, then it fuels the macrocosmic understanding to some degree.

This is true, but you can have an idea of what the Platonic Form represents. Or what the archetype represents.

And while it is true that you are interacting with an interpretation (or an incarnation of the form, if you'd like), the point still remains that you can interact with said entity without the ritual tools, without the theatrics, etc.

Symbols, and tools do not have inherent meanings to themselves. Because if they did, then there would be only a few methods of evocation and invocation. But this is not the case. Many practitioners don't do things by the book (myself included) and they have the same, if not better, results than those who do things by the book.

I encourage you to attempt to cast a spell without a ritual, or contact an entity, and see how that turns out for you. For me, it seems to work.

Also, I find the concept of "unverified personal gnosis" a bit silly. If other magicians report having the same / similar experience, then it's a "verified personal gnosis," no?

As far as I know, there are magicians who do perform magic without any complex or elaborate rituals. Some cybermagicians, who adhere to the Information Model, fall into this category.

So, my advice is to try this out, if it works, it works. And hten it's "verified personal gnosis." If it doesn't, I may encourage others to try it out, and if it works for them, then it's verified.

Again, I really dislike the concept of "unverified personal gnosis." It doesn't really mean much.

Satanism / Re: Need Opinions: Anti-Cosmic Approach to LHP
« on: January 05, 2018, 05:43:02 pm »
The way I see it, Nyarlathotep is the manifestation of Chaos that creeps into the order, and slowly but surely causes disarray.

but it seems that it would be extremely liable to projection. When you're talking about an entity you're not familiar with, it's hard to really know if there was success or failure.

Which is why you test the entities. It's not the same as blind channeling. By understanding the underlying archetype - the underlying Platonic Form - the magician is able to connect with a desired entity.

You can test the entity by asking them to give you a number, and use the gematria calculator/calculations to see if there are any synchronicities. If there are, you have a hit. If not, you failed.

There are other ways you can go about it.

1. Asking for an astral signature. An entity cannot write a false name

2. Asking the entities you work with to confirm whether or not the entity you summoned is the real deal.

I use all of these methods in a single session.

You have misunderstood me. I never said rituals are completely useless. I said they are unnecessary in order to contact an entity. You can contact an entity without a ritual. Rituals obviously have an important theatrical & psychodramatic effect. It can help one achieve a particular state of mind if they really wish to do so. But these aren't requirements in order to communicate with entities.

And when I said evocation is bunk, I mean this:

Evocation as it's commonly understood is bunk (which is what I said, but let's analyze this deeper). Evocation is commonly understood as the summoning of a spirit externally from yourself, as in making them manifest before you. You, with the right tools which have power to the, are calling forth a spirit from another realm, and it's "materializing" before you.

This is bunk for the following reasons:

Entities are not spirits. They are Platonic Forms.

Entities are spaceless and timeless. They don't come from some fantastical kingdom into our own world. No, they're in our world already, as they govern existence.

Tools themselves have no power. They have as much as power as you allow them to. That is to say, you associate the items with certain things and in that sense they have power. But aside from that, items don't have inherent power.

But if we wanted to access a new state or speak with a new being, we'll have to find a way to reach that point and it won't be by thinking. Because we're totally unfamiliar with what we're looking for.

Fair point. But, I have, as I've said, tested this out. I tried contacting entities that I've never worked with before. It seemed to have worked for the most part (not 100% success rate; I had some misses, but I think the successes outweigh them. I had a greater success ratio with Odin, Thor, and Azazel).

Science / Re: Compiled Scientific Evidence in favor of the "Paranormal"
« on: January 05, 2018, 03:25:40 pm »
I'll be updating this thread as I find more evidence, so expect bumps.

When it comes to the occult, aside from practicing & researching, there are two things I like to do:

1. Oppose dogma

2. Experiment

On one side of the spectrum, you'll hear from ceremonial magicians who are extremely superstitious that you need to do everything by the book, and that you need to perform all these complex and elaborate rituals in order to come into contact with a metaphysical entity.

On the other, you have magicians (such as chaos magicians and magicians over at Become a Living God) who claim that anything goes. "Nothing is true; everything is permitted."

Through my workings, I have come to realize that the latter category of magicians is correct. But, unlike most magicians, I am taking a step further.

I say that rituals are not necessary. I say that trance state is not necessary either (it helps but it's not a must). I say that evocation as it's commonly understood is bunk!

Metaphysical entities are Platonic Forms. They do not have a location; they don't reside in some mystical kingdom and get teleported when you start performing a ritual to evoke them. Rather, the metaphysical entities are spaceless and eternal. For as long as you have a connection with a particular Form, that Form can be interacted at all times, whenever. They're everywhere, and nowhere.

So let's take the Prince of Darkness as an example. He is the Form of Consciousness, The Higher Mind. You are in constant connection with him, by definition. All you have to do in order to get in touch with him is think about him. Now, though I've said trance is not necessary, focus is a must.

Sit down, close your eyes, and start thinking about the Prince of Darkness. Think of the things you associate him with. You'll probably start feeling emotions related to the Prince of Darkness. What do you feel? Express your intention to speak with him, and he shall come.

Because when you think of the Prince of Darkness, he thinks of you back.

This also applies to other Forms & Principles, too.

So for example, I want to communicate with Thor. I think about him, I immerse myself in the idea of his strength. And Thor speaks.

As for evocation, if you really want to actually experience the entity outside of yourself, you could a black mirror (I my laptop or phone), and stare at it whilst having the idea of the entity you wish to commune with. It will happen.

I've tested these methods, and they worked. So I ask you, "What good is being able to communicate with the gods, if you can't talk to them whenever you need? What is good about relying on a complex method when you can do it simply." I get the appeal of theatrics and psychodrama, and sure, I'd like to do some dramatic rituals too, but we shouldn't rely on them.

It's so simple to communicate with the gods, all you have to do is show them that you're willing to talk to them.

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