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Lounge / Re: I feel like I hate dependence too much. Advice?
« on: December 05, 2018, 09:42:51 am »
EDIT: TL;DR we all depend on something and someone depends on us in some way, I've seen it all... environments affect us more than we realize. Trading not being dependent on some things may centralize dependency on one source. Find your balance of what you are okay being dependent on and what depends on you and you will be happier. Only way to be least dependent is to be like a lone Amish.

Well until I realized you could be the smartest, toughe st person and still get fucked over because someone had an advantage over you like being born into wealth, I was the same way.

Being poor changed that. I've lived in extravagant houses with people making 6 figures, I've lived in middle class houses making 100k a year as well as 50k a year with professional degrees, I've lived in lower middle class homes of working families, I've lived in working poor houses barely above the poverty line and I've lived in houses stuck in poverty and the property degrading.

How independent someone tends to be in personality or emotion is pretty independent of that from what I've seen. Being too rich and you don't realize how much you've depended on your family's wealth. Too poor and you all depend on each other just to make it through and NEED to be dependable at the same time.

When I was homeless I found myself judging others for some things. Intellectually I could go, well I have the willpower to not turn to drugs (often how people end up addicted after becoming homeless). But I later realized 1) I made my choice knowing it was a possibility so had peace with the situation. 2) I had saved up some money just in case that happened 3) I had arranged for stuff I cared about to be stored to avoid loosing everything and 4) I still had a laptop, bank account and gym membership to take showers

IF someone was hit by some tragedy and lost everything, not only would they have the trauma of that, but literally none of the advantages I did. I don't drink most nights, but I could see if I lost everything saying "fuck it" and becoming an alchoholic. The internet alone gave me some normalcy. Yet despite all that, it did change my psychology being homeless even though it was only for 3 weeks. We often don't realize how unhealthy environments can fuck us up, even the most willful of us if given enough time and our emotional support systems (That we depend on) such as religion, magic, or family and friends fail us. Constantly watching your back, trusting no one. It's not like before civilization where you had the safety of the tribe. I knew the dangers and avoided other homeless and made friends with housed people and slept far away from people.

And remember, I have lived and grew up in the upper class. Think top 1-2% in terms of yearly earnings. I've seen it all. If you totally hate any dependence, you will end up hating yourself. Even the richest dude ever is dependent on the poor for income. We are all dependent on something, and someone is dependent on us. That's how the economy, that's how society works.

What will matter is you deciding what you are comfortable being depended on for, and what you are comfortable depending on. By forgoing one, you may create another. If you want total independence, you can get close by living in the sticks with your own power, water, ect, but then you depend on those able to sell you whatever needs you have that you don't have the means or environment to produce on your own (maybe certain tools or certain foods, other supplies we take for granted you might not think of), and centralize that dependency on that. If they fail, you're kind of screwed. Trust me, when I became homeless, there was a million things I never thought of I ended up needing.

There's a balance to be struck, and finding that will I think solve your feelings on the matter.

They all wanna feel cool for being in an exclusive club basically. So ya, ego. Counterproductive pride. I wish people were just proud of shit they did, not shit they were or are or whatever. It's one thing to say hey I'm proud of owning this disliked quality of mine...  but that's actually doing something.


1. Bob brags about being a writer. He never writes shit, it's just a label for his Ego. Fuck him.

2. Bob writes all super shitty and he gets upset when people try to give constructive advice and tells them to shove it. Counter productive pride

3. Bob writes alright, but some people just shit on it all day without actual feedback. he tells them to go fuck off and double downs on writing his okay but not terrible stuff. he's proud he's not letting it get to him, and that's okay.

4. Bob writes amazing stuff. he's proud that he does so well, and people like his work. This pride is the most ideal as bob works his ass off for it.

Exclusive "one true way" are either example 1 or 2 usually, since it ends up about preserving the dogma simply for the sake of doing so rather than carrying the torch the spirit of the teachings. the actual application.

Other Religions / Re: converting native tribes
« on: December 04, 2018, 08:51:31 am »
Oh, Islam is a problem too a bit' greater overall. However I wouldn't say they are on our borders since most Muslim caused violence is in Africa and India. Statistically speaking, Muslims in Europe and North America are no more violent than Christians. You just don't hear about the spate of killings by white supremacist christian individuals and groups as much (I mean actual neo nazis and kkk members ect). Christians are too "similar" to the culture, and so it's harder to vilify their customs. Islam is an easier thing to use to drum up ratings as it's different.

But to India, Kashmir is a cluster fuck of armed and agitated local militias and groups to fight for that sweet, sweet glacial water. India, Pakistan and China all want that shit.

 Islam and Christianity both have a hand in a shit ton of murder and violence in Africa, leaning Islam just due to the Rwandan genocide (I know the primary motivation was racism but no doubt religion played a role like it does with the KKK and Neo-Nazis). Christians are responsible for shit like all that murder in Uganda.

Middle East is basically Christian Imperialists beat the Ottomans and divided them up and fucked them over in such a way to get them to fight each other, then threw in the Jews a few decades later (because that totally was a great idea, right?). The Middle East is in kind of a sideways death spiral because it turns out some of them can hold their own by selling people oil.

Other Religions / Re: converting native tribes
« on: December 03, 2018, 05:15:23 am »
For the record, the cancer comment was a reference to The Book of Satan which referred to Christianity as such:

“The most dangerous of all enthroned lies is the holy, the sanctified, the privileged lie- the lie everyone believes to be a model truth. It is the fruitful mother of all other popular errors and delusions. It is a hydra-headed tree of unreason with a thousand roots. it is a social cancer!”

Christianity and Imperialism murders any culture it comes into contact with... if it can. A combination of force, exploitation and propaganda to convert to the slave religion (Ephesians 6:5-6). Those verses define why Christianity is used as an Imperialist tool. If you can convince the population to convert to better survive, you then brainwash them for economic exploitation and the death spiral of the native culture starts. It's insidious, because even when it doesn't work, Christianity has historically resorted to outright violence and murder.

Also, for most theologians it is said that uncontacted peoples can't go to hell if they have not heard the gospel yet, or at least they have a way that they can go to heaven. By contacting them he kinda wasn't doing them many  favors if it was purely "moved" on a religious ground. Likely, he was also moved by the cultural aspect of his religion to make them more like his world, less "wild" and "uncivilized".

When you look at native people (of anywhere) that were converted, there is also a pressure to dress like the culture of the Christians who converted them, to take on almost all of their customs and mannerisms too. Christianity isn't just a religion, it's also cultural and economic. Hence why I've tied it to imperialism as those it's pretty much always went hand in hand in history.

Entertainment / Re: Memes
« on: December 02, 2018, 06:26:52 pm »
I somehow knew I couldn't of been the only one to notice his resemblance to Spock. Finally someone else pointed it out!

Music / Remixing Behemoth's Barzabel
« on: December 02, 2018, 04:01:55 pm »
So in the shoutbox, @__metztli asked if there was Satanic rap, to which @Inlustratus said Behemoth's Bartzabel would make a good rap song.

I am here to accept that challenge.

Using this and this as references, along with the song itself on youtube, I think I can do it.

The latter source with the chords doesn't seem totally accurate, but I'll probably change them a little bit anyways and where it's "needed" to stay true to the original, I'll ear check against the actual master.

I'll likely change the percussion but not too much since it's just how it should be and very friendly to the percussion style I want to use with it. I will also increase the tempo just a tiny bit and change the bass a little too (maybe).

This will be a pretty synth heavy remix, unless I can convince my roommate to play the guitar parts (my guitar isn't in a working state anyway).

EDIT: @Inlustratus found a better tab for the chords, which I somehow missed;

I already got the intro done, pretty much. just working on the first vocal section now. I'll record the vocals a little later into the song, so this is just laying down the instruments first.

General LHP Discussion / Re: sex magic with partners
« on: December 02, 2018, 05:56:14 am »
Interesting you mention (though there are "Satanists" here), is there actually anything "Satanic" about sex magic?
It is just dumbed-down Hindu Tantra after-all (which has varying results, Hinduism isn't perfect)

Not directed at me but not all sex magic comes from Hinduism or Tantra, but it's usually referenced just because it's something to compare against.

And actually a lot of Satanic texts provide resources and thoughts on sex magic and as far as I can tell they have no connection to Tantric sex (which as you point out, is often watered down but when it comes to someone like me, I'm not like the flood of new age, tantra wannabes on the market trying to profit off of buzz words).

General LHP Discussion / Re: sex magic with partners
« on: December 02, 2018, 05:28:23 am »
Forgot title of book and a couple of typos, fixed that.

General LHP Discussion / Re: sex magic with partners
« on: December 02, 2018, 05:20:08 am »
"Sex Magic" is a strange thing, it's kind of post-modernist in a way. Is is magic? or is it just bdsm?
Does "sex magic" actually manifest actual results? or just make oneself feel cool?  :)

Considering that I can give you examples of sex magic references as far back as 1,500 years I'd say it's not post modern.

Let me find some in a book; "The Kāpālikas and Kālāmukhas; Two Lost Śaivite Sects" by David N. Lorenzen

"The aim of these rituals was communion of the worshiper and mundane plain the devotee gained suprahuman magical powers (siddhis) while n the eschatological plain he attained final liberation from transmigratory existence (mukti) and dwelt in the heaven of perpetual sexual bliss."

Page 83

"During the sexual act the Sadhaka should mentally recite a mantra verse to the goddess. By this means 'he creates the attitude of the oneness of Shiva and Shakti.[78] As he 'abandons his semen' he should recite the following mantra; 'Om with light and ether as my two hands, I the exulting one, relying on the ladle, I , who takes dharma and non-dharma as his sacrificial ingredients, offer (this oblation) lovingly into the fire, svaha.'[79] Here orgasm is both communion and sacrifice!"

page 92

I can't seem to find the third relevant quote in or around that chapter (was looking by a physical copy) but it says roughly that ancient sources had to be aware that the Kāpālikas were not mere hedonists due to the references to asceticism, which would imply a very fleshed out theology. We can see that in the two quotes above, that sex in of itself wasn't the only goal.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Spanda Karika verses 3-10
« on: November 30, 2018, 02:07:52 pm »
Bump, ave satanas, om kreem kali kye namah

Praise to goddess, Lilith, Samael... ave satanas

Entertainment / Legit footage from Hell
« on: November 30, 2018, 07:40:06 am »

Other Religions / Re: converting native tribes
« on: November 29, 2018, 07:49:44 am »
So do you think that the march of the Christian cancer upon native cultures and religions was inevitable?

Lounge / Re: New here
« on: November 29, 2018, 06:52:49 am »
Again, love the nick. "Left Hand Serpent" you wil lfit in nicely :)

General LHP Discussion / Re: Sigil of dwelling's protection
« on: November 29, 2018, 01:35:14 am »
I don't really remember honestly, I think it might of just something that came to me with my early sigil work. If I ever find that picture with the optimized design I might recall but still not sure.

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