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This is something I've been thinking about quite a bit lately. In each and every encounter with the Prince of Darkness, I felt some alien vibes from it - by this I don't mean ET / grey alien stuff, but rather something foreign. More important than that, I feel some sort of calmness from him.

I also feel love (Towards him) too - but not romantic love. This feeling of love is something more powerful. It's intoxicating, I must say.

But, I can't help wonder...does The Prince of Darkness care about humanity as a whole? He might think us Setians, Luciferians, Satanists, and the like as allies or something, but does he even care about the general population, I wonder?

He has given The Black Flame to humanity, so he did show some care towards it...or perhaps it was pity? He maybe pitied us for being so primitive. Perhaps he has given us The Black Flame as an experiment? An interesting idea of his. To see what would these little monkeys do with his gift. Maybe he genuinely cares about the general public, who knows.

What do you think?

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How do you know you're communicating with an egregore instead of an actual entity, such as The Prince of Darkness? What traits would tell you that you're not talking to an actual metaphysical entity, and not somebody's construct.

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Satanism / What does Order of the Trapezoid believe in?
« on: October 10, 2017, 01:33:33 pm »
What are the beliefs of this order? Can you give me a short summary? I can't seem to find books which specifically focus on this order.

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Journals / Rant Journal of Setamorphosis
« on: October 07, 2017, 07:26:09 am »
I already have a book where I document my findings and interesting things in my life, but I don't have a rant journal. So this is what it's going to be. I don't feel the need to rant often, but when I do, it's healthy to let it out. It won't be anything deeply personal, though. So, here we go:

I am absolutely baffled by the words, actions, and beliefs of some of my fellow occultists. I've been around on another forum which I won't name, and while it has some nice information, I cannot help but feel repelled by the general population of it. We live in a 21st century, and many of these people still hold medieval beliefs riddled with superstition.

"Oh, dear, I better go to the butcher's shop and buy pig's blood or chicken feet, lest so and so becomes displeased and smites me!"

Not even exaggerating. That's what a few people have said over there. Or,

"I'm sorry, I cannot reveal anything, for so and so will come to me in my sleep and kill me!"

Or,

"I am traveling to the astral ream to prevent a war between angels and demons, gnomes and trolls, and blah blah medieval superstition blah."

I get it, different strokes for different folks. People have their own paths. Occultism, magic in particular, is subjective. I get it. But I have a hard time taking a person seriously when they tell me such things. On one hand, they claim that they're a master of magic, a god even! Yet they grovel before the forces they work with, biting their nails nervously thinking whether or not the great Blargemaarh of the 17th dimension will influence probability in such a way that they get fired or get their entire life totally destroyed.

I'm not questioning their intelligence or anything like that. But I do question their words, and their actions (based on what they've told me) to a greater degree than I normally question an average person. By this, I mean that I do not trust what they say. At all. Due to their superstition, they could very well be ascribing even the most minor thing to some great spiritual plan.

Of course, these people don't like being questioned or being told that they're being a superstitious worrywart, so I don't do that. I let them. It'd be quite amusing to see them actually go insane, after all. I have nothing to gain by arguing with them.

Oh, my, heaven forbid that I attempt to argue with them! They'd employ one of their catchphrases such as "magusitis" or something (the irony!), thinking that it's the ultimate shut-down argument.

The best course of action is to distance myself in silence, and leave them to their mental masturbation.

edit: typos. I should proofread before I post...

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An old game which sadly didn't do well on the market. The game has a unique system - it's a mix of an MMO and RTS. The game is pretty challenging, actually. The graphics may be bad, but the designs are unique, the single player campaign has a really, really good story. Definitely my favorite story from a video game.

I could go on and ramble about the thing, but I rather not. Play it!

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Satanism / Need Opinions: Anti-Cosmic Approach to LHP
« on: October 02, 2017, 01:51:22 pm »
The purpose behind this thread isn't to discuss MLO or anti-cosmic Satanism as it is, per se, but rather the anti-cosmic approach to the LHP as a possibility.

I was tentative about posting this thread, let alone put it in the right category. Given the nature of the approach, I would say that this can belong in either the Setianism or Satanism subforum.

Anyway, let's begin:

The most ultimate adversariality and isolation would no doubt be achieved by forsaking the cosmos altogether, and become something...other. A manifestation of primeval chaos, yet not merged with anything, perhaps? Something that is and isn't at the same time, something formless, independent, and alien...think of it as a Lovecraftian deity, as it were.

Through cultivating the Black Flame, one strives to transcend both the objective and the subjective universe (which is arguably very linked to the objective universe, although not as rigid in its mechanics). One becomes many, and none. It's the ultimate isolation, the ultimate rebellion against the mechanical, uncaring, mindless, and ruthless universe.

Many will say that the anti-cosmic philosophy is edgy, childish, or what have you. But I think there's something interesting in this approach. It's not that different from Buddhism, at its very rudimentary core. One could even argue that they're the same once you strip away the illusion of tradition, the imagery, etc.

Life indeed can be described by suffering - the one's own suffering throughout approximately a century, only to have all of his achievements (unless popular enough) turn to the dust. All in vain. There's also the suffering and death of another lifeform so that the other, seemingly greater lifeform can survive.

The universe itself, life in particular, may be beautiful to behold, but as I've said, it's rather uncaring, mechanical, and thrives on death and destruction, even on a small scale.

To transcend the objective universe, the casual, the cosmos, whatever you wish to term it, and be FINALLY free of its ruthlessness and imposing mechanics and rigid rules...there's nothing more Satanic than that.

And I don't use the word Satanic in LaVeyan terms either. Their very philosophy (submission to nature, discouraging to transcend it) is antithetical to the LHP.

So what do you think about this approach? I know it sounds rather negative, but I think this is an interesting topic to explore, and I can see how this can be integrated into Setianism, Satanism & the LHP in general, but can you?

I'm really curious what you folks think.

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General LHP Discussion / Two Videos You Must Watch
« on: September 25, 2017, 01:26:53 pm »
I recently found out about Graham Hancock, and I must say, I was pleasantly surprised. These are the two videos I recommend to you, because they, in my opinion, contain some great messages. There are quite a few references to the Ancient Egyptian culture.

     <---- Video that was on TEDtalks, but got removed.

   <---- Interesting lecture about entities people encounter during psychedelic/mystical experiences


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I'm sure most of you are familiar with ONA's concept of acasual existence, acasual realm, and acasual beings. From what I've read, they don't explain much about it; how they came to that belief, the evidence behind it, nothing. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but they seem to brush it off as an axiom.

So, what are your thoughts on this? Is there a reason to believe in it, etc?

Disclaimer: I do not support ONA in any way, I just found this particular belief of theirs interesting.

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Lounge / Do you wear jewelry? If so, which?
« on: September 07, 2017, 11:38:05 am »
What jewelry do you wear, and what does it mean to you, personally?

I wear an ankh around my neck which is pretty neutral, so I can wear it anywhere I go, without alarming anyone. Aside from its standard meaning, the ankh also reminds me of the preciousness of life, as well as my LHP goal - to continue living independently of the natural order.

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It is often said that the Left Hand Path magician strives to become a god in his own right. To take the reigns of his own destiny, and be in control of it. To be in control of his own Subjective Universe. And, of course, to separate himself from the natural order.

Yet, there's a common trap that so many magicians (LHP, RHP, and MHP alike) fall into, which I believe hinders their ascension. It's not doubt, lack of confidence, desperation, or what have you (although these things are pretty damaging). It's the willful ignorance of one's control over his subjective universe.

I'll give you the most common example I encounter:

Imagine a magician who works with demons (e.g. Goetic). This person takes a spiritual model (believes that entities are external spirits, not a part of the subconscious). The magician will usually place himself at the mercy of the demon/subconsciousness. Thinking that the entity he called upon exists independently of his mind, he begins worrying not to upset it, to cater to its whims, to take their words at face-value. Sure, the demon performs tasks for the magician, and the magician thinks he has power over the demon. But, at the same time, this same magician feels that he has tiptoe and be careful, lest he angers the very being that he called upon. Then it goes a step further, for every mishap, for every mistake that he makes, or any unfortunate event that happens to him or his loved ones, he'll rationalize it as, "The Demon did it." Or, "The Demon is testing me."

You can see why this is unhealthy, and where it can escalate further.

This is why so many people, knowingly or not, say to steer clear of Goetic Demons. Unfortunately, so many people are stuck in a middle-ages type of belief system, even though they're easily refutable. Yet people don't want their beliefs to be challenged. They want to cling onto them, and thus there is no progress. No ascension. They might think they're improving, but in actuality, they're devoured by stagnation.

Now, in regards to demons, etc, I view (most of) them as parts of your subconscious mind (this model explains my experiences perfectly), but also, they can potentially be interpretations of Platonic Forms. However, because they're not representations of the Form of Consciousness, they're not independent. Instead, the magician personifies, for example, the Form of Love (e.g. Astaroth). This personification is the mental construct created by the magician from the Ego, or the ID if the person is not a magician, and thus created the entity against their will. The point is, this personification is the magician's CREATION. Inspired by religion and mythology, yes, but it's still HIS mental construct. So why would you relinquish YOUR control over YOUR mental construct, and cater to ITS needs?

In Setamorphosis II by Michael Aquino, there's a really segment on this very topic. In a nutshell, the psychological model (e.g. demons = parts of subconsciousness) explains why the same demon can be summoned by multiple people in different rooms (or the same room), and get different results. Different interpretations, different words, etc. Although there is consistency in some experiences, I'd wager that's because people had read about the entity previously, or got some bit of information on it, but they forgot about it. Alternatively, they could've formed impressions of the entity, without knowing much about them, and it happened to match other people's impression.

If, say, Bael or Stolas were actual, external spirits, why would they be shaped by the magicians beliefs, expectations, etc?

Now, that's not to say that one should act rudely, or imposing towards the Goetic Demons, or any entities he works with. Not at all, he should treat them with respect, not out of fear that they might slaughter him in his sleep, but rather because they are a part of him. And one should love and respect every part of him, unless it's detrimental to him and those around him. In which case, those things need to be changed.

This is something I always wanted to say, because I feel like this is what every magician needs to read. Even if it won't make a difference. People can believe what they want, but they must acknowledge that there are consequences for their beliefs (like the one I mentioned previously).

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General LHP Discussion / I am a Setian [Revelation & Details inside]
« on: September 04, 2017, 05:58:21 am »
As some of you know, yesterday I made a symbol which I refer to as "The Sigil of Set." It's not the first, nor the last sigil of Set, not by any means. However, it is special to me, as I got the idea and made the symbol myself. It has meaning, and thus power to me. The purpose behind making this sigil was not purely out of aesthetics - although that's one of the reasons. The primary reason was:

I wanted to meet Set.

I wanted to know Set.

I had a fascination with Set for quite a while, and if my magickal practices had taught me anything, it's that whenever you feel drawn to a particular entity, you should investigate. Research. Evoke. And I did.

Last night I performed an evocation, and what I've learned is staggering to me. Unlike most entities I worked with, Set seems to speak in many different ways at the same time - via thoughts, mental images, memories, ideas, etc. It was almost overwhelming, but beautiful, nonetheless.

What I've learned is that Set is so much more than the figure of legends, or a mere Platonic Form, although he is these things as well. Set is THE Prince of Darkness himself. He is an isolate consciousness, the embodiment of spiritual progress, of isolation, of going against the grain, a Promethean figure who bestowed the Black Flame upon man. He is (a) Satan; He is (a) Lucifer.

Set is easily the bearer of these titles, and so many more.

I've also learned that, in a way, Set has been a part of my life for a very long time, and I didn't know it. You see, I was born with a particular birthmark which is too specific, as well as the fact that I'm always evolving. I'm a fast learner, I grow as a person very rapidly - much to surprise to my peers and family - which often results in me isolating myself from them, involuntarily even. I'm a lone wolf type of person, and I prefer being alone for the most part. I do socialize, but I spend most of my time alone because I can think clearly and do activities that interest me. I've always been fascinated by magick, spiritual growth, and self-development - all of which I practice every day, even if I don't intend to do it sometimes.

What I'm trying to say is, I've been nurturing this Gift of Set, and I am grateful for it, even though I had no idea what it was.

Now, with all this being said, I think it's worth noting that I will not worship Set, as I don't worship anyone. Not to mention that, to me, Set seems like the type of being that wouldn't want to be worshiped. Instead, he'd much prefer to see us think for ourselves, grow, and walk our own paths.

To me, Set is a mentor, a (spiritual) father figure, I suppose. And there's so much to learn from him.

Also, and this bears mentioning as well, I'm a polytheist, but again, I don't worship anyone (not even myself, because I think that's just silly). However, my "pantheon" consists of entities I want to learn from, think of it as hiring many teachers at the same time. And these entities are:

Astaroth

Belial

Lucifuge Rofocale

Set


The Infernal Hierarchy I posted here is an idea I revamped; I narrowed it down, because I realized that these 4 figures are interpretations of multiple Platonic Forms at the same time, so it's really unnecessary to say, for example, that Lucifuge is the Form of Knowledge, and someone else represents the Form of Balance, when Lucifuge represents both.

So, while I do acknowledge myself as a Setian now, I won't limit myself by the label. Because I identify with many other labels. And thus it's unproductive to go around saying, "My name is 'Lucifugus,' and I am a [insert one label]."

That said, I just wanted to let you all know that I've discovered another label for myself.

Anyway, that's enough of my rambling. Thank you for reading this lengthy post.

Edit: Formatting

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General LHP Discussion / Ultimate Sigil of Set
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:01:43 am »
Sigils attributed to entities is a relatively new concept. As such, there are no sigils for many of the ancient gods, which is saddening indeed. But, out of the blue I came up with an idea for a sigil of Set.

An inverted pentagram in a circle, and inside the circle are the following symbols:

To the north - Was Scepter

To the east - Scarab Beetle (Xeper)

To the west - Ankh

To the south - Ouroboros

Now if only I had the proper software and sufficient skill to make such a thing look awesome...  :cry:

Anyway, what are your thoughts on the symbolism and their corresponding cardinal directions?

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General LHP Discussion / The Infernal Hierarchy
« on: August 26, 2017, 08:45:10 am »
Hello. I've written what I like to call The Infernal Hierarchy.  Whether you take it literally or metaphorically, it's entirely up to you. A word of warning, though. I have excluded the Form of Order, and the Form of Chaos, as I find these to be very impersonal. Now, obviously since this is called The Infernal Hierarchy, I used demonic interpretations (demonic names) of the Platonic Forms. Of course, they can be replaced with other interpretations. Also, the text you'll read is based on: lore, accounts, and other interpretations. Let me know if something needs fixing.

1)  On the Infernal Throne rests Lucifer, The Light Bringer.  The emerging consciousness from the primeval  darkness.  He represents the Platonic Form of Consciousness, the source of all individual consciousnesses.

At Lucifer’s side is his trusted advisor, Lucifuge Rofocale, The Prime Minister of Hell. He represents The Form of Knowledge, and in other interpretations, also the Form of Equilibrium.

Although it’s not well known, there’s a great amount of similarities and parallels between Lucifuge Rofocale, and Thoth.  In fact, just as Thoth allowed Ra to rule, Lucifuge, who is just as powerful if not more than Lucifer, let Lucifer rule Hell, and becomes his advisor, and of course, the scribe of Hell.

2)  Second to Lucifer in terms of rulership is none other than Belial, The Lord of Anarchy. Belial, whose name means either ‘worthless’ or ‘he without a master,’ could also be interpreted as a Form of Independence. However, as a character, he’s more than just ‘he without a master.’  Belial is a powerful, sometimes forceful, influential king, who commands many demons and familiars, can influence other people, the government, and of course, he is known for his teachings of self-mastery. Because of his role and characteristics, he more accurately represents the Form of Will, and/or Willpower.

3) Right below Belial on this hierarchy is his brother, and by no means less powerful, Azazel. He is known for teaching man how to make weapons, and build civilizations. He is a Promethean figure of Hell, and also a master of spiritual alchemy. He is the Form of Progress, The Form of Spiritual Evolution.

4) The Fourth Lord is Leviathan, The Great Serpent of the Sea.  He is sheer power and strength personified, and thus he represents the Form of Power.

5) The Fifth Lord is Purson, a great demonic king. He handles affairs both earthly and divine, and can help the summoner achieve or restore balance in his life. Thus, he represents the Form of Balance.

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The Sixth Lord is Asmodeus. He is a mighty king, who is known to be one of the deadliest demons among the clergy, and even has a controversial reputation among the sorcerers. He teaches mathematics, geometry, brings treasure, sexual partners (mainly women), and breaks up couples. Asmodeus represents the Form of Desire.

7) Along with being strong, independent, and wise, Lilith is also very beautiful, so much so that she can be considered beauty personified. Thus, she represents the Form of Beauty, although she could (also) represent the Form of Strength, Independence, and/or Wisdom.

8,) The Form of Love, in this hierarchy, is represented by Astaroth, The demoness of Love. Before her demonization, Astaroth was known as the goddess Astarte, who was the goddess of love.  Of course, there were many interpretations of the Form of Love throughout the history of mankind, just like with all the other forms.

9) The Ninth Lord is the very embodiment of aggression and destruction, Abaddon, The Destroyer. He represents the Form of Destruction, and/or Aggression. Originally, Abaddon was a place where destruction took place, but later it became a name for the angel of destruction. His Greek name is Apollyon, and it is said that he’s one of the most powerful demons of them all, in terms of raw strength.

10) The Tenth Lord is Amaymon, a demonic king who, among other things, can make people honorable, and worthy of respect. Despite the negative reputation, and the demonization he received, Amaymon teaches ethics, and he represents the Form of Ethics.


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General LHP Discussion / I need your help with a particular idea I have
« on: August 22, 2017, 04:55:44 am »
I'm planning to write, and post a model of what I call the Infernal Hierarchy. It's based on Platonic Complex Forms. However, I'd appreciate if you were to help me sort these following Forms from the most necessary (to humans) to the least.

The first one, I think is pretty obvious which is the Form of Consciousness. I think that Form of Knowledge should share the #1 spot with the Form of Consciousness, but if you disagree, let me know.

Here are the forms, however, which I'm not yet sure how to sort:

Form of Will

Form of Desire

Form of Beauty

Form of Progress/Advancement

Form of Love

Form of Benevolence

Form of Power/Strength

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I apologize if the title seems redundant, but I wrote it just in case there's a Setian here that doesn't take the Platonic Form approach.

I have three questions:

1. Do you believe Set can communicate with a person, whether by words or ideas?

2. How do you personally communicate with Set, if you do?

3. To what extent Set can have an influence in one's life?

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