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General LHP Discussion / Re: To ban or not to ban
« on: April 13, 2019, 05:17:51 pm »
Looking at the thread in question:  there is only a remnant of what this person posted which was quoted by others:

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"What makes you angry: > Stupid people, religion, science, Black people, Arabs, Latin Americans, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, homosexuals, liberals, transsexuals, feminists, Leftists.

Should we ever use weapons of mass destruction: > Yes, against the following: The Islamosphere, Africa, South America, Central America, India, Southeast Asia.

Well, this person obviously wouldn't be happy here, and would probably get quite angry here, so I have no problem with the administration showing him the door.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Animal sacrifice
« on: April 13, 2019, 04:50:57 pm »
On the other (left) hand, being that I consider myself to be an apex predator, I will eat everything and anything I desire.
Regarding the sacrifice aspect. I don't believe in entities outside of myself, therefore I have no need to offer myself something in return for something I already have.
How do you reconcile these two statements?  Do you prey on yourself?  (My guess it would have to do with how you define "entities.")
Wut? LOL . . .

Apex Predator = eat/feed on whatever I want

"don't believe in entities outside of myself"
All gods, devils, demons & angel things are aspects of our unconscious mind.

"Do you prey on yourself?"
I gather you are confused with what I was talking about?
I addressed eating meat in one reply and addressed sacrificing to an entity in another reply. They really weren't meant to be connected.

Thank you for the clarification.  So it does have to do with your own definition of entities, then, with your definition of an entity being non-corporeal.  (The usual definition of an entity is something with a distinct and independent existence, which would make your statement "I don't believe in entities outside of myself" as embracing solipsism.)

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Animal sacrifice
« on: April 12, 2019, 02:54:58 pm »
On the other (left) hand, being that I consider myself to be an apex predator, I will eat everything and anything I desire.
Regarding the sacrifice aspect. I don't believe in entities outside of myself, therefore I have no need to offer myself something in return for something I already have.
How do you reconcile these two statements?  Do you prey on yourself?  (My guess it would have to do with how you define "entities.")

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Animal sacrifice
« on: April 12, 2019, 03:57:52 am »
I'm not really a predator.  I'm more omnivorous than predatory.

False dichotomy. A predator is a creature which preys on others, regardless of what else it might eat. Bears and raccoons are omnivorous, but that doesn't give them any less enjoyment of eating your chickens or your cute little dog.
If ritual animal sacrifice is not predatory in nature, then what is it, then? 

"Here Master, I brought you a cute little creature.  Since I love you so much, I want to share the joy I have killing this creature in Our Sacred Space with you.  I also have this blood fetish that gives me great joy.  Let me also share this joy with you as I splatter blood all over Our Sacred Space."

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Animal sacrifice
« on: April 11, 2019, 08:34:13 pm »

Are you a vegetarian then?
Nope.
I'm not really a predator.  I'm more omnivorous than predatory.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Animal sacrifice
« on: April 11, 2019, 08:19:34 pm »

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Animal sacrifice
« on: April 11, 2019, 03:34:17 pm »
I'm not really into animal sacrifice, especially whole burnt sacrifice (holocaust.)

Your mileage may vary.

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Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Western Left Hand Path
« on: April 07, 2019, 03:43:50 pm »


You really lost me here . . .
Apophatic theology, also known as negative theology, is a form of theological thinking and religious practice which attempts to approach God, the Divine, by negation, to speak only in terms of what may not be said about the perfect goodness that is God.
The Apophatic approach can also be applied toward Self (or just about anything else, for that matter.)


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Contrarian
    1.   a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, especially in stock exchange dealing.

    2.   opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice.

Just for the helluvit or is there some motive behind it?
I tend to do it naturally/unconsciously, usually without a conscious motive.  (Although I suspect it might have developed as a defense against being manipulated and/or as a means to express intuition {unconscious cognition})

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If you are apathetic to your unconscious cultural programming, then how are you going to bring it into consciousness and examine it?  That's basically the same effect as RHP repression of ideas outside of the "norm."
I am apathetic to it because anytime I unveil some kind of cultural programming I immediately see it for what it is . . . nothing. After decades of this one becomes apathetic to it . . .
OK, I'll give you that--there is a difference between becoming consciously apathetic to it and remaining unconsciously apathetic to it.  I disagree with you regarding it being nothing, however.  It being nothing would violate causality, constituting an effect (cultural norms) without a cause.

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The thing is that there is both truth (wisdom) and falsehoods to be found in whatever nomos you are considering.  To dismiss it all as false is to throw away discernment and throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Everything other than my own, personal nomos I understand as not a part of me, but a part from someone else. I am only interested in the Universe I am creating for my Self.
I see this as a conclusion resulting from an apophatic approach towards self.  (This is not me.  This is not my Self. This is not who I am.)  Negative itheology.  ;)

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Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Western Left Hand Path
« on: April 06, 2019, 05:37:09 pm »


I try my best to redefine antinomianism in a new light, one that places it at our inner war with our shadow self and in lieu of individuating one's self. Whereas Heterodoxy seems to be firmly attached to the nomos (to use your word) of religion and culture.

I seem to be failing . . . however;

(from Thomas Karlsson's talk given at Flambeau Noir in Ottawa April 2017)
Antinomianism, in the spiritual and philosophical meaning:
a) Defining the utmost realities through negations and
b) going against the grain, to be aware of unconscious patterns
c) building a higher moral through breaking free from simple social morality defined by the majority (a concept actually close to ethical idealism).
I practice this:
a) Apophatic (via negation) approach rather than cataphatic approach
b) I am often contrarian
c) I do work hard to try to bring the nomos out of the unconscious and into consciousness for examination.  Not only is this a needed element for the evolution of society, but it is also an excellent skill to prompt people to bring up other stuff from their unconscious mind and rationally examine it.
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Antinomianism as a praxis of spiritual dissent manifests as both a methodology and a practicum to personal spiritual freedom. Antinomianism represents a historical methodology and post-modern evolution of individualized thought that seeks freedom from the confines of cultural, social and genetic/memetic programming. The path of spiritual dissent has most often been documented and categorized as that of the Left Hand Path (LHP). The path of harmonious acceptance of man as he is and the giving over of self-responsibility to a higher force has most often been represented by the Right Hand Path (RHP).
If you are apathetic to your unconscious cultural programming, then how are you going to bring it into consciousness and examine it?  That's basically the same effect as RHP repression of ideas outside of the "norm."

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I try my best to redefine antinomianism in a new light, one that places it at our inner war with our shadow self and in lieu of individuating one's self. Whereas Heterodoxy seems to be firmly attached to the nomos (to use your word) of religion and culture.
Well yes, stuff that is repressed by the nomos will be in your Shadow, and antinomianism will help bring the repressed stuff up into consciousness for examination.  The ego is "consuming" the Shadow.  Heterodoxy doesn't always involve the conscious, rational, examination part--the danger of heterodoxy is ego becoming consumed by the Shadow, instead of vice-versa.

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To practice heterodoxy is to accept these religious beliefs as something true and thus something to be at war with . . . I do not accept most religions, therefore, I have no use for heterodoxy.
The thing is that there is both truth (wisdom) and falsehoods to be found in whatever nomos you are considering.  To dismiss it all as false is to throw away discernment and throw the baby out with the bathwater.



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Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Western Left Hand Path
« on: April 05, 2019, 10:58:25 am »
The 'antinomian' aspect is about the adversary within. IMO when one is confronting outside principles then one is practicing heterodoxy, which in turn enables those principles to exist.
Isn't antinomianism "going against the grain?"

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e.g. I am apathetic to witch burnings simply because I don't believe in witches nor the Christian faith which enabled those burnings.

How apathetic would you be if they carried you or one of your loved ones off to be burned?

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Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Western Left Hand Path
« on: April 05, 2019, 10:08:50 am »
The term Western Left Hand Path as the Herald of the Dawn along with several other occult organizations understand it, has evolved over time into many different paths, including Satanism, Luciferianism, Setianism, Ahrimanism, Mercurænism, and other similar paths. They all share certain common traits – apathy towards cultural norms/values, high respect for subjective experience, and perhaps most importantly, a focus on the individual Self (as something isolate and unnatural from the objective universe). These tenets are actualized through various magico-spiritual and inner antinomian practices, Individuation, Majiq, Ritual and various self-disciplines (meditation, yoga, martial arts etc.).
I'm not really sure whether "apathy towards cultural norms/values" jives with antinomianism, one of the two traits (along with autotheism) Dr Flowers uses to define LHP.  I certainly wouldn't be apathetic towards such cultural traits or norms as burning witches, honor killings, or the expectation for a widow to throw herself on her dead husband's funeral pyre.  Fuck that crap--I'd be actively working to change that, or at the very least help those affected by it to escape. 

Your mileage may vary.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: When to use greater black magic?
« on: January 28, 2019, 12:33:07 am »
I use a definition of "greater" magics as those which change one's own self/experience/reality, and "lesser" as the cheats or hacks that unexpectedly modify what appears to be the outside world.

With those definitions, it's harder to find times when greater magics are inappropriate, than those when they are a good solution. Small changes to one's own perception and processing of reality can be the strongest foundations for the changes to attitude and behavior necessary to affect causal outcomes in one's world.

On a case-by-case basis, many lesser magics are what you have to watch out for overusing, lest the adaptability of the world changes things so that they don't work at all without the intervention. This is a pattern underlying the hedonic treadmill in psychology, and antibiotic resistance in medicine.
Yes, if you make a habit of using Lesser Black Magick instead of developing skillfulness to deal with the situation, you are denying yourself the opportunity to become masterfully skillful, and may end up in a situation which is beyond your skill set.  You might need to use Greater Black Magick to break the habit/dependency on Lesser Black Magick.  Your mileage may vary.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Another book price rant
« on: January 15, 2019, 04:13:52 pm »
If you want fancy-schmancy snakeskin covered qliphothic grimoires for a better price

It doesn't necessarily have to be a fancy-schmancy snakeskin covered grimoire. It can be a normal paperback book, but those fuckers at ixaxaar don't make normal books. Here's how some other books they publish look like:


Edgar Kerval's books are available in paperback. :) I can also give you some leads to others who have helped me to get a grasp on the qliphoth if you'd like via PM.

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General LHP Discussion / Re: Another book price rant
« on: January 14, 2019, 09:59:49 pm »
If you want fancy-schmancy snakeskin covered qliphothic grimoires for a better price, try Edgar Kerval. (I don't know if he makes his hand made editions anymore.)

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Science / Re: Unfounded, but interesting, allegations about intuition
« on: December 24, 2018, 04:32:53 pm »
Jung gives his definition of intuition at 4:24 of this video:

"So my definition of intuition is a perception by ways or means of the unconscious."  ~Carl Jung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfkppPnHafU

or "unconscious cognition"

Introverted intuition is my primary function. ;)

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