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I'm not sure I would trust the integrity of any esoteric organization which does not proclaim their Ideals to be the Only True ones. How will I be convinced if their own upper echelon isn't?
If it had integrity, then would there be a need to make such a proclamation?

Satanism / Re: "Satanism" cheat sheet
« on: November 26, 2018, 08:59:50 pm »
My two cents:

Non-theistic Luciferianism is more against worship, which makes theism/atheism moot.
I would say the Herald of the Dawn is not like Atheistic Satanism. (Although there are many groups calling themselves Luciferians which are just Satanism in drag.) We use a much broader range of archetypes, and don't really subscribe to romantic satanism as Paradise Lost.  Lucifer and Satan are not the same.  Being Mercuræns, the Mercury/Hermes/Thoth/Quetzalcoatl/Woden archetypes are very important to us, especially to the female mystai, where Mercury/Hermes is your Jungian Animus, which serves as psychopomp between your conscious mind and your unconscious mind. 

Setianism / Re: Thought on Apep and Tiamat
« on: November 11, 2018, 09:48:46 pm »
Wouldn't "killing" the chaos monster "once and for all" actually represent repression, rather than individuation?
If you "slay" (or repress) the monster once and for all, you miss the opportunity to learn all these things about yourself, and remain ignorant of your unconscious workings.  If you logically refute the unskillful compulsions as they arise, then you learn about your unconscious workings, and can consciously guide it away from taking unskillful actions.

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Initiation and Recognition
« on: November 10, 2018, 03:35:28 pm »
Interested persons will be directed to an application for affiliation.  Then, if approved by the Council (our elected governing body,) the person will become an Incipio, and will be given some study material and up to 8 weeks to study and understand it, as well as an area where they can interact with other members and ask questions.  This is a probationary time so the candidate can understand some of the principles of the western left hand path and key concepts as they related to the Herald of the Dawn, and decide if it resonates with them.  When they are ready, they can request an interview, and upon passing the interview, will be accepted as a Neophyte in the main group.

There is a curriculum for Neophytes, and once they have shown that they have become adept with the material, they will be recognized as Adept, and more advanced material will become available to them.

Higher degrees are through recognition of the qualities of that degree the Mystai develops.  There isn't a set curriculum for the higher degrees.

Setianism / Re: Thought on Apep and Tiamat
« on: November 09, 2018, 03:15:02 pm »
Wouldn't "killing" the chaos monster "once and for all" actually represent repression, rather than individuation?

Setianism / Re: Thought on Apep and Tiamat
« on: November 09, 2018, 10:11:06 am »
Ma'at is expressed via negative confessions, no? (In the paraphrased manner of:  I have not wronged any, I have not closed my mind to words of truth, etc.)  Couldn't slaying these unconscious compulsions (represented by Apep in the duat--unconscious mind) by Set (isolate intelligence) be logically refuting these unconscious compulsions rather than having your mind overcome by them and being enslaved by them?

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Glyph of Mercurius Consciousness
« on: November 08, 2018, 05:07:00 pm »
Glyph of Mercurius Consciousness:

My glyph of Mercurius Consciousness pendant:

General LHP Discussion / Re: sex magic with partners
« on: October 29, 2018, 03:54:01 am »

In my case, I used sex magic to enhance sex but I could see it used towards literally any end. I'm most curious of using it to heighten awareness and potency of spirit magic, more so as I have an affiliation with Lilith, so sex to me is a gateway to her.

If this is your goal, then one partner remains mindful and alert, while the other goes through the various trance stages.  The mindful guide then observes and prompts the one in trance when they are showing signs of various trance stages (such as spontaneous mudras,) so the one in trance will know the various stages for what they are, and learn how to navigate them.

General LHP Discussion / Re: V.K. Jehannum on Set
« on: October 18, 2018, 03:15:47 pm »
I have a different take on Set and Apep, which parallels the transforming anger article posted here.

Set is anger turning inward to clear out the boiling eddies of the mind (Apep.)  So yeah, in this respect, both will transform and merge within your own individual subjective mind and become something else.

Of course, your mileage may vary.

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Transforming Anger
« on: October 06, 2018, 09:17:56 am »

That's fair. I personally view liking something's presence as synonymous with disliking its absence, but there are levels of emotional subtlety which that logical definition probably misses.

Desire is magnetizing/drawing-in in its action, whereas anger is repulsive/casting-away in its action.  The casting-away action of anger is what makes it effective in clearing the mind.  Desire would be more useful in holding onto/concentrating on a single-pointed meditation.

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Transforming Anger
« on: October 05, 2018, 06:43:10 pm »
The only real name that I have come across to describe this transformed anger is Great Mirror Wisdom. (If you know of any other names for it, please let me know.) 

How about "motivation"? At the heart of most if not all motivation to take action, there's a dissatisfaction with the status quo which outweighs the subjective benefits of inaction.

The dominant RHP paradigms in which society and language have been stewing for uncounted generations leave a stigma on describing one's emotions as "anger". Thus a less-biased view of "anger" as a family of related emotions, divorced from that stigma, would likely include many if not all of the underlying motives to non-habitual action.

As an example, contrast the habitual action of getting up and going to work every morning, done by rote, against the non-habitual action of applying for a new job, spurred by some dissatisfaction that can almost certainly be traced into anger or indignation of some sort if you dig deeply enough.

"Motivation" might be a bit generic.  For example, one can be motivated by something you like.  You might find motivation via desire, for instance.  Anger is triggered by dislike.

Current Events / Re: LHP political systems?
« on: October 05, 2018, 03:09:27 pm »
Are there any non-Right Hand Path political systems or parties? Even historically?
Read the Tao Te Ching ;)

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Transforming Anger
« on: October 04, 2018, 10:35:15 pm »
That would certainly be an interesting technique. Forgive me if I sounded dismissive, I'm actually quite curious to know more. Have you had much success with it? I have never been much disposed to feeling anger, so I've had little chance to harness it the way you're speaking of here. I suppose my anger has always been pre-empted by some other mechanism. But that is no matter, we all have different compositions. I've just done a short meditation to find where the capacity for anger lies within myself, and I do sense the red and raw power there. Perhaps it can be made use of more effectively. I shall have to remember to try it the next time I am swarmed by distractions.
I'm really not that disposed to rage myself, either.  I had to trace it down through meditation and identify it as the obstacle buster, and had to compare my own coping mechanisms and compare and contrast them to how others react to the same situation in order to pinpoint, identify, and describe it.

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Transforming Anger
« on: October 04, 2018, 07:44:12 pm »
This is an interesting topic. It seems to me something like what a Sage of Mars might say, if there were any so dedicated.

It is in one sense genius to use the anger to undermine itself. Personally though, I find that anger, if it ever arises, is part of those forces which disturb mind and not those which clear it. This could be changed with practice, but I don't have the reserves of rage to fuel such an experiment.

To my consideration, anger is a mayfly. It is an emotional and physiological force that comes forth with such a clamor that all others are silenced - if only for that brief moment. But a day of reflection, or a minute, or even just a few seconds - clears that force away again. To turn anger into a tool would mean that we must store up that brightly burning and evaporating stuff within our soul, so as to call it forth when we will it. I suspect this process itself could have serious consequences so please do use caution. And if we are to master calling forth our anger, we should also have to raise our capacity for sustaining the emotion, so as to not exhaust all of our new power in one glorious blow against the enemy of the moment. Not all adversaries can be downed so quickly, so we must pace our expenditures wisely so as to not be left cooking dinner over a spent hearth.

If we want to train our internal forces to work for us - should we not start with Anxiety? It is maintained, and increased of itself without end. If we were able to tame it and turn it toward our goals, we should have an inexhaustible source of power.
Anger is for getting around or through obstacles, the main one being a boiling mind.  Anger only needs to arise when your mind is boiling in order to still it.

Mercuræn Luciferianism / Re: Transforming Anger
« on: October 04, 2018, 07:39:24 pm »
Mod note: added paragraph spaces to make OP easier to read.

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