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Lounge / Re: Introduction
« on: June 20, 2018, 08:17:19 am »
LaVeyan Satanism is the only form of the LHP I know where Satan is part of nature.

What about us pantheist types lol (I know there are a few of us at least on here)

Satan's always been something I equate with nature/the universe.

Lounge / Re: What are you doing right now?
« on: June 20, 2018, 08:11:57 am »
Sitting in the break room at work, because I got no internet at home and I wasn't really gonna sleep anyway. I got a shift in 3 hours lol

I gotta remind myself to tackle this later if I can. But holy crap 6,000 words. I get tired after about 2,000-3,000 (both reading and writing).

Setianism / Re: Similar experiences?
« on: June 20, 2018, 06:37:30 am »
It sounds kinda like racing thoughts (in the clinical sense).

Personally I can't recall feeling an anxiety, when having a flight of inspiration. I think they are distinct though, with anxiety or not. I don't have negative sensations when I have insights.

Satanism / Re: On the question of if CoS is LHP:
« on: June 20, 2018, 03:48:16 am »
I didn't know there was any debate. I don't think we can equate dogma with not being LHP and there is a strong case to argue that tradition has historically been part of the LHP both ancient and modern.

From two strict points of view, LHP is either individualism which treads taboos without tradition, or on the other coin that but embracing a dark heterodoxy, so all of that but accepting tradition as part of the LHP.

I don't see why the CoS wouldn't be in the latter.

As for the former, eventually someone doing something long enough makes it a tradition. It's kind of inevitable. So I default to the latter.

The question of the nature of consciousness, and of the "stuffs" of the Universe, material, mental, whatever, is a question of belief and so isn't pertinent to whether someone is LHP or not.

Left Hand Path beliefs have always been all over the map and that's still true of Satanism, Setian ect evcen today. I don't think there is anything meaningful in qualifying if someone is RHP or LHP based on belief.

If we all believed the same thing then the LHP wouldn't be very individualistic.

General LHP Discussion / Re: I'm done with Horus/RHP (rant)
« on: June 17, 2018, 04:43:18 am »
Good catch on that @NEMO 93

I know when I bike I often feel like the bike is a part or extension of my body. I've read that for many who are practiced in something that the brain incorporates the vehicle as part of your proprioception, kinesthetic and visual feedback that's tied to your body.

As is the old saying particularly in cheesy movies "become one with X" or whatever activity is going on.

I think it's a lot like that, but of course I think it's more of a sliding scale but it's one of the most ordinary experiences of nonduality we regularly encounter.

In that moment, you don't become the bike, but the bike becomes part of you, if that makes sense.

Perhaps to the dualist the two things are still separate and it's just a mental thing. To that I shrug because of course we are coming from a different set of assumptions.

General LHP Discussion / Re: I'm done with Horus/RHP (rant)
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:54:11 am »
"How do you align "pleasure is just a product of evolution" with "bliss is the fundamental state of being of the divine"?[/size]I mean, I enjoy believing the latter, too, but who knows whether feeling ananda is just being high on bhakti and holds no metaphysical truth to it?"

pleasure =/= ananda

language fails to convey it, but ananda is a totally different experience. It's more like a peaceful, neutral calm. I think we naturally find this blissful but it's two part, one part our evolutionaryily geared reaction to aligning with nature, and another nature itself being purely neutral when not in movement, light or darkness. If our nature was fundamentally different, we might not experience ananda at these states, but we could still accomplish them. I could see for how some intelligent, totally foreign beings that are nothing like us either in mind or evolution they might find it like a deafening silence that drives them mad.

Perhaps then, in that light, it's just how you frame and feel about the nothingness and yet unlimited potential of the void and Abyss, of the unformed aspect of Shiva, Satan in it's pure state of opposition where it cancels out everything else into a pure sea of gray, ash and blackness. The cosmos empty of expression, right before the canvas is painted. Right as it is painted, after it is painted, and yet you see and experience all around you not as a subject or observer, but as part of the flowing existence of particles and energy and yet still conscious.

To just exist without influence or attachment. To simply be. Some surely find that terrifying. I don't. There is always the canvas to paint the universe or myself in any way once I reach that state, if I were to wish it in that moment of becoming God.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Suicide and Mind-Body Dualism
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:44:44 am »
It appears while animals become depressed in ways that can lead to death (like not eating)  they don't actively commit suicide.

There's been a decent number of documented cases of attempts or animals doing it in response to depression or stressful situations, more so with intelligent animals but self mutilation is much more common.

General LHP Discussion / Re: Suicide and Mind-Body Dualism
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:32:28 am »
I admit I skipped over a couple of posts (sorry olive lol) but I kinda feel it doesn't prove anything.

I noticed you said that 'homicide could just be another body killing a body'.

I don't see why this is the case, a lack of mind-body dualism doesn't mean that a person is "just a body" anymore than it would mean we are "just a mind" without the dualism.

Body and mind are useful categories but I don't think that's the whole picture. I've touched on my Theory of Aspects a couple of times in the past, but basically I think we are much more than just mind and body (5 parts to be exact) but at the same time we are one complete whole that is larger than the sum of the parts. So it might a well act as one part, but I wouldn't call that mind or body.

edit: in other words we are complicated creatures, and I think it perfectly makes sense within an evolutionary context why we would fight against suicide even when another part of us wants it. A lot of that reaction though is involuntary, so it's not really "trying" so much as just physics is taking course. In one extreme, we might compare some things being conscious and some not. Rocks react to physics, our bodies react to physics.

Then the question is, if the mind is separate then consciousness must not react t physics. So far we don't know much about it other than the body can affect the mind, which shows some kind of casual link. Which is why I always lean away from such dualisms as much as possible.
I mean hell as a Satanist I see the carnal and spiritual as not necessarily opposed so I don't see why i can't see the mind and body as one in the same too.

Satanism / Re: Do you show adoration for Satan?
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:26:38 am »
Well as I've said before, I'm a nondualist and draw primarily from a kind of Hebrew ideal and consider myself a Shaivite above most else. Although I find Christan symbolism to now and then have varying degrees of mythological inspiration and use. The difference is my belief about Satan in general is closer to Judaism than anything else, symbolism aside.

As far as hating Christanity, I'd count myself among someone who does, but tries not to. Hell yesterday some kid was wandering around as his dad shopped and handed me some pamplet as I was working. I got really pissed (not at the kid but just because I couldn't say anything and at the dad). That's the 4th time in 2 weeks someone's tried to tell me about Jebus and some kid was getting brainwashed in the process!

I've thought about it over the years, and I find it hard to justify a Satanist not being anti-christian when they vilify everything we stand for and work to destroy the foundation of reality itself with their delusions invading every aspect of our lives and society.

It is a cancer, our society's multi headed hydra of unreason in bed with other cancers like conservatism. It's destroying our world and trying to remake some idealized past that never was. Its cries at every perceived slight "persecution!" even when they hold the most sway in politics and social pressure, they are the dominant influencer.

Anytime anyone gets even close to equal footing in an arena, suddenly it's this huge controversy. Christianity doesn't want to share the world with others. They want to convert and/or kill us and we can see this with how it spread by the sword, destroying an entire cultures and religions in it's wake. And they would do the same to us, if modern society didn't have at least enough sense to keep them under control and have some semblance of separation of church and state and religious freedom in most developed countries.

Satanism / Re: St. Peter's Cross (the inverted cross)
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:12:17 am »
True. But by the same token, the soldiers on duty that day could have very well thought the last wish to be goofy and funny, and figured indulging the cooky hobo they were about to nail up wouldn't make much of a difference. Who knows, maybe they figured it'd be icing on the cake to see his piss and shit flow down to his face once he started letting all that stuff loose. Even if he was the one who gave 'em the idea, he probably regretted it shortly thereafter.

It's also worth mentioning you'd die faster upside down.

But of course they all want to be martyrs anyway. They never got over the victim complex even as they machine gun down civilians across the world or incite riots and murders against gay men in Uganda.

Satanism / Re: What has Satanism done for your life?
« on: May 25, 2018, 03:27:45 am »
I actually hadn't really thought about "what good" or what Satanism "has done" for my life...  I don't see how reality should be determined by the situation in one's life. At the same time though I've seen positive affects from practicing Satanism, but it's a complicated subject. I think the biggest thing for me was learning to accept and love myself for who I am, while also trying to always improve as a person in a proactive way that most people don't (since they are less in tune with themselves and deny the shadow and the darkness).

That's probably the best answer I can give at the moment without thinking about it more.

Satanism / What has Satanism done for your life?
« on: May 25, 2018, 03:23:15 am »
Today someone asked me "And how did that turn out for you? What good has he done for you?" in reference to me being a Satanist. I gave my answer, best I could at the time.

So I ask ya'll as well, what has Satanism done for your life?

General LHP Discussion / Re: I'm done with Horus/RHP (rant)
« on: May 25, 2018, 03:14:10 am »
I keep thinking "what if pain and suffering is foundational?"

And I've come to the conclusion that if it is, I accept it and praise Satan's glory as a causer of it all! I praise his eternal darkness and every moment of suffering is a moment I know I'm not dead. I praise every moment of joy as it reminds me I am not just alive but that life is worth living. His nature causes the laws of reality to be in such a way that joy is possible, and also foundational.

But i still think neither is foundational but emergent from evolutionary process. Why would a timeless, bornless entity have a need for pain or pleasure? Pain dissuades behavior that reduces survival, pleasure increases things that help survival. So I still think both are products of evolution.

But IF only pain was foundational, I would still praise Satan for it, because it is also what allows joy to exist. Hail Satan!

To follow the RHP is to numb your own senses and go deeper and deeper into the vortex of conformism and the trap of neverending cycles, or you can be like Pakerbeth and slay the womb of slavery marching towards limitlessness and unrestriction.

Eh in the derogatory sense that's an inversion of Blavatsky's meaning, sure. Other than that... not necessarily true.

Lounge / Re: Naming Satanic kittens 2.0
« on: May 23, 2018, 06:55:53 am »
Artemis is the mom. Her brother Apollo did it.

God how'd I let this happen lol Doubled my cats.

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