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Setianism / Re: Dr. Aquinos thoughts of WM Puzzles me a bit.
« on: September 17, 2018, 01:25:26 pm »
From The Church of Satan:

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Any notion that the Church of Satan was internally an atheistic institution prior to 1975 is laughable to anyone who was involved with it beyond the most superficial level. It was the Church of Satan, not a cabaret or expressionist encounter group. Anton LaVey knew this, I knew it, the Priesthood of Mendes knew it, and any Satanist holding at least the II° knew it. Publicly the Church put out the “atheism with psychodrama” line so that it wouldn’t scare society beyond tolerance-level. After 1975 Anton LaVey merely slipped smoothly into this image, which was all that he could do in light of his betrayal of the Prince of Darkness.

By the way, can you explain "Red Magic", perhaps on the Gnostic Satanism board? I see different definitions of the term.

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Setianism / Re: Dr. Aquinos thoughts of WM Puzzles me a bit.
« on: September 17, 2018, 12:46:59 pm »
Terms get confusing sometimes. It's funny that in the Satanic Bible Anton LaVey says:

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There is no difference between “White” and “Black” magic, except in the smug hypocrisy...

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In the Satanic Church we draw no dividing line between white or black magic. Magic is magic, be it used to help or hinder. You the magician should have the ability to decide what is just and then apply the powers of magic to attain your goals.

Yet from Michael Aquino's 1972 introduction:

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He turned to the pipe organ as a means of living and devoted the greater part of his efforts to what was to become his life’s work—Black Magic.

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LaVey’s disturbing theories and bizarre operations of ceremonial Black Magic eventually attracted a following of similarly minded individuals.

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The worship of any deity or deities—under any guise whatsoever—is repulsive to the Black Magician...

Burton Wolfe also used the term "Black Magic" in both of his introductions:

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...and they carried on their black magic openly instead of underground.

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It has been clear from the first edition that many people want to read this book to learn how to start Satanic groups and ritualize black magic.

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Setianism / Re: Dr. Aquinos thoughts of WM Puzzles me a bit.
« on: September 17, 2018, 11:45:03 am »
White Magic.

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Setianism / Re: Dr. Aquinos thoughts of WM Puzzles me a bit.
« on: September 17, 2018, 08:49:16 am »
It's on page 213.

I think the point is that WM is non-effective when done on a personal level, and only effective when used to basically brainwash others. This is why he mentions advertising and propaganda.

LBM on the other hand is more direct and "surgical" in nature, the goal being to cause change in a particular situation. Or more precisely, a change in the collective SU of the people involved.

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Satanism / Re: Gnosticism, Satanism and the Ophite Cultus Satanas
« on: September 14, 2018, 04:06:41 am »
Never a rush, take your time.

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Satanism / Re: Gnosticism, Satanism and the Ophite Cultus Satanas
« on: September 14, 2018, 03:43:36 am »
I added the board, post an overview if you want and either I or another admin will make it sticky. Thank you.


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Vampyrism / Re: Who Are The Gods?
« on: September 13, 2018, 10:45:06 pm »
The Empusai are shape-shifters who can change their appearance, often becoming succubi who would seduce younger men at night for the purity of their blood. They are also related to obstructing or hindering something (Johnston, 1999, p.132-134), and were mentioned in a Greek play (Aristophane, 405 BCE) and other writings.

In Greek mythology, Empusai were the offspring of Hecate (a goddess of magic and the underworld). Still looking into this subject more, but it seems to fit the paradigm.

Johnston, Sarah Iles (1999), Restless Dead p. 132-134.
Aristophane (405 BCE), Frogs.

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Lounge / Re: Hello from the Little Beast
« on: September 13, 2018, 11:36:53 am »
Welcome to the forum.

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Announcements / Re: Problems with the forum
« on: September 13, 2018, 07:45:45 am »
On the left sidebar it's Profile Info->Like Posts.

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Sorry for the shitty picture. And yes I'm wierd.

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Music / Re: Moderately cheezy 'occult' musicians
« on: September 12, 2018, 08:07:47 pm »
Out of curiosity, I read most of the lyrics to Blackmage, and another thing where he says:

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You think I worship Satan? Bitch I am a Thelemite.
Do what thou wilt, no dogma can close my wide open eyes.

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I don't worship Satan I'm just sayin' that we get along

At first glance it seems that he's using colorful symbolism to make certain points, but sometimes the occult references do seem a little awkward or out of place. In fairness I would probably view it all in terms of an overall aesthetic instead of a gimmick. Slayer had plenty of Satanic imagery but the subject matter involved the holocaust, evangelists coercing money out of people, abortion, suicide, etc.

Interesting discussion, especially for an old fucker like me who is never up to date when it comes to music.


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Announcements / Re: Problems with the forum
« on: September 12, 2018, 12:13:31 pm »
I can't get support because all of the mod licenses have expired. The programmer seems to know the reasons behind the problems, but I can't get support unless I update the Mentions system, so it might be a little while until I can get it fixed.

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Announcements / Re: Problems with the forum
« on: September 11, 2018, 06:18:35 pm »
I asked some questions about it, will report back, thank you @Liu .

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Satanism / Re: Official Warnings on Fundamentalist Pseudo-Satanism
« on: September 10, 2018, 09:12:26 pm »
Posted this on reddit a while ago concerning the TST:

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I haven't yet formulated a complete opinion on the Satanic Temple. The tenants don't resonate with me as being very Satanic, but that doesn't mean the members aren't. If they are accomplishing their goals and having fun at the same time, I suppose that's Satanic enough for me.

Though the organization identifies with atheism, there is nothing I see in the short application agreement that actually requires it. My main point though is that I prefer to treat individuals and organizations accordingly, what is "under the hood" doesn't always reflect the make/model of the car. I think the Church of Satan is like that too, but as indicated the people in charge are unlikely to bend when it comes to official standpoints.

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Lounge / Re: Hello-INTRO (dedicated Aquarian)
« on: September 10, 2018, 03:53:42 pm »
Thanks for the introduction, and welcome to the forum.


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