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pi_rameses - A Setian Journal Hello all,

There is something that I would like to draw your attention to. I stumbled upon it via Tumblr while perusing the Internet. The link is:

Looking back, I suppose it was in virtue of such perusals that I am currently writing a paper to submit to the O.S. I recall gleaning through Reddit on topics such as Platonism and Setianism, which brought me here. For this I am grateful. Since then, I have come across a number of resources of which I had not heard mostly originating from this forum. As a commemoration, I am currently considering to supplement or augment my diary via the use of a personal blog. While I could start said blog at another domain, my first vehicle of choice to set this up is clearly this forum. I am looking forward to the future and a flourishing and a refining of the Self.

Xeper and Remanifest!

July 13, 2017, 03:25:51 am
Re: Music thread Franz Liszt "Ballade No. 2" played on a 97 key grand piano by my favorite contemporary virtuoso pianist Valentina Lisitsa.  I performed this piece in one of my best solo piano recitals;

August 01, 2017, 06:38:17 pm
Re: Hello :) Glad to have you :)
August 03, 2017, 12:54:58 am
Re: Hello :)
Hopefully, people will be kinder to me here, than you've been.

Welcome then :) I apologize if my reply may had given you the wrong impression. You just seemed to be a bit familiar that was all, I apologize if I may had offended you in anyway. I just haven't known you fully on RF.

August 03, 2017, 01:59:18 am
Re: Does this belief system bring you peace? I would say there are a lot of practices I do that bring me peace. Mostly things like you mentioned such as meditation. If you are of the atheist persuasion there are a lot of LHP sects that might interest you that focus on mindfulness and the like.

I'm trying to think of a thorough answer but really it's just doing things like meditation, japa, and some kinds of rituals that just help get rid of things in my way of just being me. I think a lot of it for me, the LHP can be about using taboo ways to do that even and I use that sometimes for that.

I don't know. I never really thought about it much. I guess it's so much more for me, and thinking about inner-peace isn't usually what's on my mind so much in explicit terms. Expressing my beliefs through my music has really done wonders for my peace. I guess just feeling closer to the divine in a mystical way has that side effect... called anada... but it's not always the primary goal. Maybe for that "joy" is a better word. It's just that feeling you get when you are in your element being yourself.

In my mind this is part of what Crowley meant with "orbits" as I understand it. Just where you are supposed to be. The others here are very more "western" in their understanding of the LHP though so take my answer as just representative of me and not anyone else.

Anyway sorry my thoughts are kinda scrambled. I get like that when hungry and it's right before dinner time atm lol

August 03, 2017, 02:12:54 am
Re: Hello :) Welcome Deidre, great big huge hugs! = )
August 03, 2017, 01:30:48 pm
Re: Does this belief system bring you peace?
And so I wonder about others' belief systems, does a left hand path bring one peace? Can you describe how?

This is a complicated answer to say, the Left Hand Path is not a simple road to take unlike other Religions that are separate from that Path. My Path has never truly brought me peace, instead my Path has tested me all these years.

 Iv'e struggled greatly with anxiety and depression. I try to fight it everyday, before I realized that this Path was for me, a while back I was raised in a confusing religious environment. My dad on the other hand separated me from the nordic faith that I practiced a while back, he tried to raise me in a Christian environment, it didn't work for me at all.

As a matter of fact I came to disagreements of how they represented Lucifer to be an evil being, on one hand I regarded him as a good being among this world. Over time when I came to that realization that I was a Satanist, it was not an easy philosophy to adhere to unlike other Religions such as Christianity which is perhaps a peaceful stepping stone for the individuals own benefit.

I have evolved and underwent many self transformations upon my practices of my path, my concept of the LHP is adopting a heterodox viewpoint, by violating or embracing taboos that are looked down upon.

 Once you embrace these taboos you undergo through this self transformation process of the self, you start to feel comfortable of the things that are viewed as non mainstream, you start to feel at peace with the things that you love to do outside of the mainstream. In many cases I have never felt any sense of empathy towards others, in that regard I feel that this process of my self transformation is bringing me a sense of empathy slowly.

For me this is perhaps complicated to explain this, but when I was a beginning novice on my journey I started putting Black Magick into practice. You may have heard that many people outside of the Left Hand Path may regard Black Magick as evil or Malevolent perhaps.  Black Magick is not really an evil form. As a matter of fact some of the concepts of Black Magick is about improving the self and manipulating ones environment to ones own advantage.

Their is plenty of more concepts within the Practice of Black Magick in which I would love to explain in detail but I am the type of person that gets to the point of things.

For me one of my goals within my Path is stepping outside these limits that may restrain the individual. It is about overcoming many obstacles in ones life. Once when you step outside of these limits outside of society you start to undergo the process of happiness and peace to that extent.

August 03, 2017, 05:05:51 pm
Re: Does this belief system bring you peace? Greetings Deidre,

For me personally it really has never been a matter of peace of mind or faith, but rather a matter of something that is indeed real and has always worked for me.  I became a Satanist when I was about 15 and later became a Setian at the age of 20.  Both are LHP philosophies which have appealed to me, and even called out to my soul.  The peace I have received is that I found, at a very young age, a religion, a way of life, that inspires and works for me, which is about study and practice, not worship.  A religion, life philosophy, that challenges the mind and soul to become their most magnificent and supreme manifestation.  Just like with anything else in life, the way of the Left Hand can and will be just, if not more, challenging and stressful, as it deals with matters of the spirit or soul.

The Left Hand Path exalts the truth that nothing worth while in life is ever easy.  But when certain self-actualizations have been achieved, there is a time of peace that is worth savoring.  The Path of Darkness is the Left Hand Path Quest of those who are willing and capable of flourishing through the pleasures and pains of the unique existence of Setian/Satanic Being.

Some Christians might say, oh we are taking the easy way, when in fact it is quite the reverse.  The RHP is about letting some other god or being taking control of your life and its direction, the LHP is about self-effort, study and practice, you taking complete control over your own life and its direction.

Xeper and Remanifest.

August 03, 2017, 05:36:27 pm
Re: Does this belief system bring you peace?
Thank you for this! So there are rituals that you actually follow? Do you attend anything that resembles a church service? Sorry, the only reference point I have is from my experiences as a former Christian.

A little correction: I said "Anada" which was a typo... the word is Ananda (Sanskrit आनन्द). Meaning very great joy. It's considered how one subjectively feels when close to Moksha (liberation).

There are some rituals I designed as a Satanist that were unwittingly very Tantric like in thinking at the time, I still follow that basic format as finding specifics on tantric rituals is a bit harder.

Unfortunately there isn't any kind of Temples around and generally LHP tantrics didn't go to Temples anyway but more practiced solitary or in groups with each other. I actually do sporadically though attend a church (although they prefer the term "society", a Uniterian Universalist congregation. They are very open and accepting of my viewpoints. All UU congregations are open minded and if they aren't they are not following what little UU tenents are set in stone. I don't like to attend the services though as many of them have a Christian vibe (their roots are in liberal christanity but UU isn't christian). I do like their other events and stuff.  Last time I really went was when they were having the Tantric Buddhist monks there. That was really cool and I helped out a lot with some stuff for that entire week.

As I said they are pretty much open to any religion. Mine has in a few different places flags to represent all the major religions and then a couple of ones to cover various smaller ones. I've meet Buddhists there as well as Christians and agnostics and witches and new age people. It's really a very diverse place.

And about the only one someone like me can go and find a spiritual community that accepts me. You might actually like going to one, particularly if you need some kind of spiritual foundation but think atheism is the way to go for you. There were atheists there as well. Really the whole UU thing is based around finding your own path instead of it being dictated by dogma. In a way it's kinda like LHP in that one specific aspect; the path isn't dictated by society but by one's own subjective journey.

August 04, 2017, 04:24:26 am
Re: Does this belief system bring you peace?
I'll come back to ask more a little later, but thank you for your insights. So this brings about a question ...would you say that your belief system is one whereby enlightenment is brought about because of the darkness or despite it? I'm thinking that the darkness acts as a conduit for positive change which I find fascinating. But am I understanding that right?

Btw, I updated my original post - nine posts above.

Enlightenment comes from exploring the Darkness, the unknown, the mysteries of the universe, of existence, the limitless hidden potential of being.  Our greatest knowledge and truths are uncovered by exploring the Quest-ions the Path takes us on.  Also those who walk the LHP, who explore the Darkness, are strengthened intellectually and spiritually, which helps to resolve and overcome irrational fears one may have.

The Path of Darkness leads to Enlightenment!

August 04, 2017, 02:35:19 pm