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Re: I had a really weird dream - you might find it interesting Yeah, there's more to dreams than we think. I usually don't dismiss them, but when I have a dream so crazy and nonsensical, I don't bother analyzing it.

And, wow, it's a good thing that you had that dream indeed. That hawk was up to no good surely. D:

August 11, 2017, 08:32:49 am
Re: What are your beliefs about Satan? I don't believe that there's this one Archdaemon, anti-god called Satan. In fact, Satan is not a name, but a title, which became a name due to the Church's ignorance.

There are many entities that can be called Satan. Look at other pantheons, ones that predate Christianity, and you would see that almost every pantheon had a "Satan" of their own. Lucifer, too.

When people mention Satan, I immediately think of Samael, or Azazel. I actually refrain from using the word "Satan." Unless it's actually a part of the entity's name (e.g. Satanichia).

August 18, 2017, 04:08:21 pm
Re: Your idea of a deity/deities I believe in all deities, but I worship none. I respect some for their characteristics, but not worship them.

Now, I also happen to believe in what I call "Infernal Hierarchy." By this, I don't mean I believe in a literal Hell, where there's a various hierarchy of Demons. No. I use the term more metaphorically.

Basically, I believe that the Form of Consciousness, which some call Set, others Lucifer or Satan. I'm still not sure how I call the form of consciousness. But, I think that this Form of Consciousness is on the top of the hierarchy. Below this Form of Consciousness are the more archetypical, earthly Gods. Which I call Demons, or Daemons.

Daemon, by the way, among other meanings, also meant that which is between God and Man. So, to me, these Daemons are a part of the person, and the Form of Consciousness at the same time.

Let's take Belial, for example.

The name Belial, as well as his characteristics (independent, strong, aggressive, unyielding) are ideas of a man. Belial, in this regard, is a part of the person. A part of you. However, Belial is also connected to the Form of Consciousness because in a meditative state, should you attempt to contact Belial, you would have an experience of communicating with something else. In your head. Now, someone would simply dismiss this as a hallucination, which is fine, but I find this to be a lazy thing to do. Certain hallucinations seem to be systematic, reocurring, and the same (for the most part) for different people who've never had contact with each other, even if their knowledge is scarce on the topic.

People who have attempted to contact Belial, had for the most part the same experience, regardless of the knowledge they had on him (ranging from close to no-knowledge whatsoever (Which was my case at the time) to well-researched).

This leads me to believe that people are tapping into something which is connected to the Form of Consciousness (because it seems to be independent of you). Now, one could say here that it's not necessary connected to the Form of Consciousness, but that's it connected to your consciousness. Which is fine, but keep in mind that there is a connection between your consciousness and the Form of Consciousness. So whether it's by proxy or not, these archetypes are connected to the Form of Consciousness.

I guess you could say I have a Platonic + Crowleyian view on Gods.

August 20, 2017, 07:12:56 pm
To Setians who take the Platonic Form approach: I have some questions I apologize if the title seems redundant, but I wrote it just in case there's a Setian here that doesn't take the Platonic Form approach.

I have three questions:

1. Do you believe Set can communicate with a person, whether by words or ideas?

2. How do you personally communicate with Set, if you do?

3. To what extent Set can have an influence in one's life?

August 20, 2017, 07:19:56 pm
Re: Your idea of a deity/deities pi_ramesses, I haven't read Sacred Magic of Abra Melin the Mage, but I will at some stage.

Deidre, hmm, I personally don't think the ability to create is necessary for something to be called a deity. There are plenty of pagan gods which didn't create anything. That said, I also think that humans at the time would've called anything extraordinary (Imagine if someone could time-travel and just appear at an ancient town square, and show off their technology. They'd be called a god no doubt). Keeping this in mind, I am careful with how I use the word "God" lately.

I would say that complex, fundamental Forms are gods, and pagan entities are their interpretations. Archetypes which represent, in a sense, mediums for those Forms. Hence I refer to them as Daemons or Demons (bear in mind, Demon means completely different to me than it does to Christians and the general population).

That being said, I share your views on Satan, and Satan and Set. I don't view Satan as a deity either, and I don't equate him with Set, as their backgrounds, roles, and things they represent are different (although there are some similarities). I, however, don't deny that the character of Satan was inspired by Set to a degree.

As for your question, I think that we aren't inherently deities, but that we can awaken, and become ones. I believe in a universal source (The All, but it's not a being), and that it's earthly representation is us. As above, so below. We can create as well. So, perhaps, by your criteria (must create), we could be called gods in this sense.

Again, though, I try to be careful with how I use the word "God." If I could find or coin another term to make a proper distinction between these things, I would.

August 21, 2017, 09:14:53 am
Re: To Setians who take the Platonic Form approach: I have some questions I see. That's really awesome. Do you ever pray to Set, even if metaphorically (form of introspection)?
August 21, 2017, 02:59:02 pm
Re: To Setians who take the Platonic Form approach: I have some questions I, too, believe that entities have a subtle influence on this world, through people, by inspiring / idea conjuring.

August 22, 2017, 09:50:26 am
I need your help with a particular idea I have I'm planning to write, and post a model of what I call the Infernal Hierarchy. It's based on Platonic Complex Forms. However, I'd appreciate if you were to help me sort these following Forms from the most necessary (to humans) to the least.

The first one, I think is pretty obvious which is the Form of Consciousness. I think that Form of Knowledge should share the #1 spot with the Form of Consciousness, but if you disagree, let me know.

Here are the forms, however, which I'm not yet sure how to sort:

Form of Will

Form of Desire

Form of Beauty

Form of Progress/Advancement

Form of Love

Form of Benevolence

Form of Power/Strength

August 22, 2017, 09:55:44 am
Re: To Setians who take the Platonic Form approach: I have some questions As someone has been changing a lot in short periods of time (and still am to this day), I agree that self-evolution isn't always easy. In fact, some things were deeply ingrained, so it took some effort and time to root them out.
August 24, 2017, 09:30:59 am
Re: The Path of Change Thanks for sharing!

Looking inside yourself is always a good thing, even though it can be a bit scary at times. And I think you said a very important thing in your post. Satan can This can be applied on other things, too. Nature, for instance. It's not good or bad. It just IS. People have a tendency to categorize things, but sometimes it's best to leave certain things alone. Let them

August 26, 2017, 01:33:51 pm