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Ahoy Hello,

Sort-of-thelemite here, just getting into it. I also have a strong interest in Setianism and am a former-ish theistic Satanist (mostly, I've just put that off to the side while I work on Thelema and other magick).

Thanks!
-Natalie

November 24, 2019, 02:53:31 am
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Re: CoS compared to well defined characteristics of LHP and RHP Beautifully laid out, and absolutely true. It's hilarious (and simultaneously disheartening) to see CoS-aligned Satanists beat down others because daddy Gilmore said so. It's pathetic, really.
November 27, 2019, 08:46:34 pm
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Re: Ahoy
In my estimation, there is some overlap between Setian Philosophy and Thelema, as both are focused on the Will and include the rejection of conventional religious thought.

As reflected in our Statement, we are about Self-Directed Self-Evolution. To that end, we welcome you to be part of our mutual interest in the ultimate Truth of Being.

That’s some good stuff there. I’m more a chaos magician, so the self-directed self-evolution is right up my alley. I’m taking steps back from a direct religion and going more eclectic personally, but this Order really appeals to me

December 03, 2019, 08:35:23 pm
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The crossover between Thelema and Setianism? Hi!

In my intro post, as well as a handful of other references I've seen in the forum, people were saying that there is some decent crossover between Thelema and Setianism. I understand that a lot of this is personal interpretation, but I'd really like to see some more information or ideas on that from the more experienced and read among y'all.

December 11, 2019, 08:27:21 pm
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Re: What is really removed from /r/Satanism? I took over the much smaller /r/satanists sub and ended up handing it over to someone I trust recently. Might be worth checking out.
December 12, 2019, 02:31:43 pm
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Re: Introduction to Thelema I recommend this for the FAQ

https://iao131.com/2012/07/04/why-thelema-kicks-ass/

February 14, 2020, 07:44:24 pm
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Re: Setianism in a Nutshell
If pragmatism is RHP, I would conclude from this (regarding the realm of power):

LHP: idealistic, expressing your power (because you have the independence to do so)
RHP: pragmatic, working on increasing and protecting your power (because you are currently dependent on something external from yourself)

Many actions are both, though. E.g. you may read a book both to increase your knowledge (i.e. power) and because you enjoy doing so. You may eat something both because it's good for your health and because it's tasty. And every RHP-action has LHP-action/-state as its ultimate goal.

Even if I'd desire to submit myself to my boss's will, I'd do so out of my own desire, which would make it LHP as I'm thereby shaping the world to how I want it to be.

Thank you for posting this. This is similar to my own views on the matter, finding there's really little difference between RHP and LHP beyond semantics. Personally, I don't care where the power behind magic comes from (I tend towards it coming from within, personally, but if we continue down this way, we begin digging into non-dualism and whathaveyou where nothing and everything is within and without). I practice Golden Dawn and Thelemic magic because I get a lot out of it, both power and fulfillment. I don't care so much about union with deity as much as seeing behind the universe's veil.

February 29, 2020, 04:22:09 pm
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Nat's Journal Where I'm at now
Working through Lesson 3 of Modern Magick, my main coursebook, currently. I have a strong fascination with the Golden Dawn system, although I'm not hugely fond of its heavy Christian imagery. Thelema I definitely think is far more where I belong, as far as religion goes. Setianism...maybe I'll throw that on later. Right now, my top concern is pounding through a ton of literature and practice. Also, finding stable work.

Endgoal
My endgoal is thus: pull aside the veil over the universe and observe the cogs in motion directly. I want to learn it all and see it for myself. I want to look in the very face of God. Magical power, on top of this, is also quite desirable but I more seek to see what's behind it all for myself.

Hopefully I'll keep this updated.
-Sor. S.I.D.

February 29, 2020, 08:24:04 pm
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Re: Nat's Journal Currently reading Aquino's Black Magic. Surprisingly great read that hits to the heart what I've been feeling in my search, my reasonings and my goals. Guess I'm a little more keen to Setianism than I thought :) Not claiming it, I have a lot of research to do in the meantime.
March 09, 2020, 01:06:47 pm
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