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Hapu Partly doing this post to get a feel for your board mechanics. But also it seems cordial to say hi. 8)

Learned of "Three Scarabs" via r/satanism on reddit. Bought his book via Kindle and am reading it on my phone. Learned of this group via the announcement of Kings of Darkness on the aforementioned subreddit.

Ego is a mystery. I want to explore it. I think you do too. It's nice to have company on the road.

I don't know how dark I am. I have a feeling I may be darker than I think. We'll see.

August 22, 2019, 08:07:43 pm
Re: Introduction: Artemism and Lunar Devotion Philosophical Pessimism and the Will to Purity as dimensions of the Left Hand Path... I'm processing that.

Thank you.

August 22, 2019, 09:11:45 pm
Re: Moral Nihilism My morality is I-Theistic. I alone am the lawgiver unto myself alone. It is wrong for me to violate whatever law I have given myself. Morally I am accountable to no one but myself but to myself I am wholly accountable.

August 23, 2019, 12:41:31 am
Re: A hilariously RHP/dogmatic rant from CoS There are not two choices but three:
1. Symbol
2. Entity
3. Force

Note these quotes from the very article under discussion:

“In LaVey's view, the Devil was not [an anthropomorphic deity], but rather a dark, hidden force in nature responsible for the workings of earthly affairs, a force for which neither science nor religion had any explanation.”—Burton Wolfe, Introduction to The Satanic Bible.

“Satan...merely represents a force of nature—the powers of darkness which have been named just that because no religion has taken these forces out of darkness.” “...this many faceted key to the unknown—which the Satanist chooses to call ‘Satan’.” (page 62).

Not Symbol nor Entity, perhaps, but instead, Force.

As for "in nature" and "of nature" - much depends on how broad our notion of nature is.

August 23, 2019, 03:22:02 pm
Telos I'm trying this thought on for size as I continue to study.

The physical, objective, universal telos is Horus.
The psychological, subjective, individual telos is Set.
Schopenhauer's will to live and Nietzsche's will to power are both telos and each has both a Horus aspect and a Set aspect.

Will is what I am and that will is Set.
Will is what made my flesh and that will is Horus.

There is no false will and to that extent I disagree with Crowley. True will implies false will and there is no false will. There is only will and all will is either Horus or Set.

August 24, 2019, 12:52:14 pm
Re: Telos I'm far from being a graphic artist of any real merit but I was able to fumble-finger my way through the creation of the attached penta-diagram using Microsoft Paint.

These ideas are still triggering my imagination.
Telos in matter is Horus.
Telos in mind is Set.

There are intersections. For example, when I'm hungry, that's the will to life in my material body exerting pressure on my mind.

Both matter and mind are propelled by the will to life, love, power, truth, and glory. Both mind and matter. In matter Horus has propelled evolution. In mind Set has propelled self-actualization.


August 24, 2019, 08:11:56 pm
Re: First authorized and official Order of the Serpent pendant
"The insignia of the Order is a pentagram, representing that point of inner-consciousness where the individual Self exists. The pentagram is within a circle representing the physical shell of the Self, but the points of the pentagram do not touch this circle, symbolizing the continued separation between Self and Body. The separation of the metaphysical (pentagram) from the physical (circle) exists because the elements of both are independent and distinct from one another. Stemming from this pentagram are five symbols, from Norse, Sumerian, Egyptian, Chinese, and alchemy. It is meant to represent the diversity of interests within the O.S. We are not simply a Setian, Thelemic, Asatru, Hermetic, Luciferian/Satanic, or any single approach, but a place for such individuals to help each other grow, and help share useful information."

Further, the symbols transliterated is "Draco"

Thank you.

Norse, Sumerian, Egyptian, Chinese, and alchemy. That's a good cross-section.

I think I would buy merchandise that had that pentagram on it. For some reason I keep seeing it carved into a knife handle.

August 25, 2019, 02:01:44 am
Re: Telos
I love to see practitioners expressing their thoughts symbolically, this is a very flexible medium in which to structure information while keeping it compressed and esoteric!

Thank you. I agree.

Something I've learned from my own exploration into these concepts and observing them in my life is that value comes in Set's conflict with the other, or the struggle against life by a person. Our will (set) fights against our conditions (given as horus in the presented model)

I think you meant "horus" in your last sentence, rather than "hours," so I changed it. I hope I wasn't presumptuous.

You've highlighted a stark contrast between your own intuitions and my own. You intuit Horus and Set as being in conflict whereas I intuit them as working in tandem; I.e., my telos pentagram represents both Horus and Set, and both matter and mind.

But you offer a good explanation below for why the difference in our intuitions may be merely apparent. As is so often the case, much hinges on the definitions of words.

A symbol I have found useful in conveying this struggle comes from my work with Apophis, a little draconian cosmology. I seperate horus to represent philosophies of subjugation to nature, or the objective universe (when channeling this aspect of horus, it becomes solar. A state of permanent grounding and submission to gain favor or learn more with little willful direction, going with the flow, trying not to disturb things through "wrong action" a horrible version of the world contained within the self,  adversary to fight) and Apep as the actual objective and non opinionated world free of thought (patterns observable in nature, law, the way things work, all cycles in their totality, a non objective "all").

And therein lies the semantic explanation for the merely apparent difference in our intuitions. What you call Apep, I call Horus.

Nevertheless, you've hit on something interesting, since, as of right now, I don't have a name for what you call Horus. More than that, I've ignored the concept entirely.

I think both Horus (Apep in your terminology) and Set must both face this stagnating counter-force. Call it inertia, perhaps, or entropy, or both. I'm still processing this.
I also additionally have a messenger, a combination of the idea of a God messenger in mythology (thoth, Hermes, nyarlathotep, persephone,  typically I give a cthonic alignment) and a consort (scarlet woman in draconian models, an object of desire/inspiration outside of oneself (and therefore belonging in the O.U, thus the role of a messenger) to inspire new creation and thought.  To present unique and varying opinions from the self. In this conflict between forces, new experiences and teachings can be interred,  creating the life experience driven by an inherent objective to learn by fighting against all else to glean experiences.

The above goes further down the mythological road than I currently have gone. But I may find myself traveling a similar direction eventually.

August 25, 2019, 11:11:45 am
Re: Simulation Hypothesis I confess I place little credence in the computer simulation model as literal fact. However, as a 21st century metaphor, it intrigues me.

One question to ask would be, in the simulation are we NPCs (Non-Player Characters) or are we Players? To me, an NPC only exists inside the simulation, whereas a Player exists outside the simulation. The Player plugs into the simulation when his/her avatar (the body) draw its first birth, stays plugged in until his/her avatar (the body) takes too much damage, and then unplugs, thus returning his/her attention to the Real World, which emphatically is not Earth.
The preceding sentence is in fact a capsule summary of what New Age practitioners believe to be the case. They just use different jargon.

August 25, 2019, 12:27:28 pm
Re: "Satan is..." Satan is Alien.

Alien to the tribe.
Alien to the faith.
Alien to the gods.
Alien to the homeland.
Alien to the ancestors.
Alien to the social order.

That's the most essential thing to say about Satan. Everything else flows from this starting point.

If we lived in a country where the dominant paradigm was the beast as ideal, then Satan would represent all that is alien to the beast, and Satanic ritual would be all about calculus, iambic pentameter, and Kant.

August 25, 2019, 01:39:21 pm