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Re: Thoughts or input on this Map (draft)? Just trying for philosophies here.
January 18, 2018, 06:24:24 am
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Re: Discussing Beliefs
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But how does it work if the same shade fits both under the category of blue and green?


Overlap within the Form of Color I'd say, like a Venn diagram.

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Why not? As I understand L-Fields, if there is one mutation, they can cause the spread of that mutation in ways that other theories of genetic evolution can't explain. I would prefer that explanation as it doesn't rely on a singularity.

I'm actually not sure, I need to think about this.


January 18, 2018, 01:28:26 pm
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Re: Index of Terms Isn't IAO something quite significant, like the name of God or the sound a donkey makes or something? Or is it the formulas of Isis Apep Osiris and I just learned something new?
January 19, 2018, 01:54:52 pm
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Re: Index of Terms I'm right about something AND learned something new? Hot damn, happy Friday!
January 19, 2018, 02:33:21 pm
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Re: Why exactly is The King in Yellow so dangerous according to Aquino? I'd say the first season of True Detective especially confirms that the Yellow King is one of the more malevolent manifestations of the OT god.
January 19, 2018, 07:44:32 pm
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Re: How do you treat your altar?
Moving in with my SO I decided to ditch the set altar and spread it through the house. I never do actual altar work anyways.

The bookshelf thing is the living room. Set and Horus too. Thoth is with the college degrees in the office along with Melek Taus. Incense shelf is the guest/music room. Maat is dead center of the house in the hallway. Pentagram and Lilith with the Serpent are bedroom. Extra space because SO doesn't have a lot of knickknacks yet haha.

https://imgur.com/a/868w6

January 19, 2018, 11:01:39 pm
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Re: How do you treat your altar? And Anubis at the gateway

https://i.imgur.com/79hFV4M.jpg

January 19, 2018, 11:03:38 pm
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Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP? I think that at its core Thelema is a stellar religion, LHP. The solar stuff is because the book was received by a very solar based magician with a massive ego. Sure Crowley was the best in Egypt perhaps to receive the book, and he certainly made it wide spread, but he certainly wasn't perfect. Crowley's perversions are often clear and completely litter the copies of AL we have now.
January 21, 2018, 04:51:06 pm
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Happy Anniversary! Hello everyone! As of today the Order of the Serpent has existed for one year! It's amazing to me that it's only been that short of a time. We've managed to build a thriving forum for the LHP, published 3 fantastic newsletters on LHP topics, kept a thriving library of resources on the LHP, and have reach a surprisingly wide level of recognition. It's been an amazing ride, and Onyx, Setamontet, and myself are deeply thankful to all who have participated and even just supported us. The O.S. isn't for one specific part of the LHP, it is for all who walk the path, and we hope to continue to help those who also dare to reach for the darkness.

Thank you, eternally, for all your unyielding support, and like the Ancient Serpent, so too may you endure!

January 22, 2018, 03:25:08 pm
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Property Dualism 101 Property Dualism is an extremely important concept in modern philosophy, and it seems many have a lot of trouble understanding just what property dualism is and why it is important. I am hoping this will be a concise but thorough look into what property dualism means and why it matters.

To start we need to look at some definitions. In philosophy, a "property" is a "characteristic" or "feature" that can be attributed to something, and "things" are said to possess certain properties [1]. In other words, properties are that which give something its identity. "Identity" in philosophy is what a thing is in and of itself – its characteristics, what it IS. Two things are the same if they have the same identity, which means that they share identical properties [2]. Another important concept is the "Law of Identity", which is a logical axiom – an axiom being something which must be true and cannot be false, and cannot even be argued against [3]. The Law of Identity recognizes that every individual thing has its own nature – its own specific properties which give the thing its identity, and since the law is an axiom, this implication must be objectively true. It states that an object cannot have more than one identity, and that only by having identical properties can two things be the same [4]. Finally, in philosophy the term "dualism" is the position that there exists two kinds of reality which have different properties and are therefore non-identical – meaning that both things exist objectively and do not reduce into each other [5].  So, property dualism then is the position that things have their own identity, and that the two things in question have identities that do not match, therefore showing the two things are not identical or reducible. In the case of the Mind-Body Problem, these two things are the brain and mind, for example. Keep in mind this is just the logic of it, not support of any specific position at all. We are simply starting with based philosophy and definitions to help clarify this issue.

Now, there are many examples we can use to show property dualism is true of our objective world, specifically that both the material and immaterial exist. To do this we will use the most common one – the property dualism between the mind and the brain, where the brain represents the properties of matter, and the mind properties of the immaterial.

So, what properties can we assign to the brain/matter at large? For one we know that the brain is accessible to the senses. If we cut the head of a normal human open we are going to see the brain, be able to touch it, technically be able to smell and taste it if we were so inclined. We could take the brain and show it to everyone in the room, take picture of the brain and theoretically show it to everybody in the world. From this we can extract certain properties – directly accessible to the senses, universally accessible to anyone. Another property of the brain is that it works in a linear way, X  Y  Z. If we give a dose of LSD to an animal like a chimpanzee for example, we can see the very linear course from sober to intoxicated and back again, and the same is true in the vast majority of humans. Likewise we know that if, say, a child is afraid of snakes, and you expose them to a snake, they are going to experience fear. Further, the brain, like all matter, takes up a set amount of space. From a tiny electron to the largest galaxy in the universe, physical matter takes up space. This obviously includes the brain, which takes up place in the skull, or on a table during an autopsy, etc. These are just a very small number of example to try and keep the paper concise. So properties of the brain/matter again include being accessible to the senses, being universally accessible, acting in a linear way, and taking up physical space.

So what about the mind? Inner experience is not something that is accessible to the senses, unlike matter/the brain. You cannot see, hear, feel, taste, or smell anything of another's subjective universe, only that which they choose to share, which of course can be severally unreliable. You're not going to capture something like experience on film, or be able to record inner dialogue on a tape. And tied to this we can see that the mind is not universally accessible. Unlike cutting open a head and seeing a brain anyone can see, again all we have to access the experience of another is testimony. So the mind is not accessible to the senses and certainly not universally accessible, two properties that contradict those of the brain/matter. Further, minds do not act in linear ways. You can jump from thinking about philosophy to thinking about your dog, leap forward in time to plan the future or back to the past to relive a memory. Things like cognitive therapy and placebos without deception even show us that the mind can go against a natural brain process, such as learning to recognize and counter symptoms of depression, or the lessening of pain through belief without any actual physiological changes. Another contradiction in properties. Finally for our fourth example of space – mental events do not take up space. If you imagine a beautiful woman standing in front of you, there is no actual displacement of the space in front of you. When someone's thoughts are racing they do not fill up an office space or a room, because they do not take up space.

What we see then is that the brain/matter and the mind have entirely different properties, which also tells us that the mind is immaterial since it has contradictory properties to matter. Keep in mind that none of this requires any type of belief in ANYTHING, it's literally just an observation of the facts we have at hand. Once again, what we see is that matter is accessible to the senses, universally accessible, linear, and takes up space, whereas the immaterial, in this case the mind, is not accessible to the senses, not universally accessible, non-linear, and do not take up space. Per the law of identity, this means that brain/mind and matter/immaterial are not identical, and therefore both exist, creating a dualism.

To wrap up here, this is not to say that we should accept dualism and never question it. We should question everything all the time imo. Immaterial monism may show that what we think of as "matter" is actually an illusion caused by the mind or some more fundamental consciousness. Likewise, Material monism may show that the mind and consciousness reduces to the brain, they may provide a mechanism by which unconscious matter creates consciousness seems immaterial. What it comes down to is that neither position has provided convincing reasons accept them, and cannot (as of yet) explain how this seeming dualism arises but is not accurate. Pretty much every position likes to think they are the default position today, but none of these positions are default. They look at the world, gather data, and apply philosophical reasoning, thus coming to a conclusion about how the world is. If anything, the default position is solipsism and we move beyond that based on logic and empiricism.

Summary / TLDR:

Properties are what give a thing its identity, and things with different properties cannot be identical. This is basic logic. Matter, like the brain in our example, and the mind/experience, have different properties based on our knowledge of the universe at this time, and so are not identical. It is therefore on any form of monism to explain how one of these sets of properties reduces to and can arise from it without contradiction. This has not been accomplished yet.

[1] https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties/

[2] https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity/#1

[3] http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Metaphysics_Axiom.html

[4] http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Metaphysics_Identity.html

[5] http://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_dualism.html





January 23, 2018, 03:50:40 pm
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