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Intro Seems pretty standard to post an introduction here, so I'll go ahead. 
I'm Devon.  I've been very interested in the Left Hand Path for quite a while.  I would not consider myself as someone who practices, as I've never intentionally carried out any magick per say.   I'm working to increase my knowledge and I hope to read and take part in various discussions to help grow my understanding and to further refine myself.  Thank you for your time, and I hope to be posting/reading quite often.

September 12, 2018, 04:23:19 am
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Moderately cheezy 'occult' musicians I was curious how people who actively practice magick and follow the LHP actually feel about artists like Ghostemane and Suicide Boys.  When I first came across Ghostemane I really liked his first album, Blackmage (and not big on much after that), but I never cared much for Suicide Boys.  I've made a few friends recently who are really into both, but none of them are actually into magick.
I'm fairly sure that the references in the music is mostly just a gimick, and I wanted to know how others felt about it.  He references painting a circle around his feet and sacrificing women inside of pentagrams, etc...so it's kind of like he's just cramming in as many ridiculous stereotypes as possible to boost his 'spooky' image.
These artists are blowing up lately though and it's hard to go anywhere without bumping into someone who asks me if I've heard of them.  I've seen threads on reddit about Ghostemane's samples and people pointing others who don't know much about the topic towards occult and magick readings, so maybe it's kind of a good thing?  At the same time it just feels like commodification and packaging, like with Marilyn Manson or Slayer, but under the banner of rap instead.

September 12, 2018, 07:19:47 pm
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Re: Moderately cheezy 'occult' musicians I definitely had no intention of knocking Marilyn Manson, and have enjoyed the majority of his work...I'd say up to and including Golden Age of Grotesque. 
Slayer on the other hand, well I loved them as a teen, it really pissed people off, so why not.  I can still appreciate what they did for metal in general, but I'm really working to move past listening to things for purely nostalgic reasons and instead constantly expanding my musical tastes and collection. 

As far as the lyrics go, he has other songs that make odd specific references.  John Dee would be another good example. 

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I wake up in the morning feelin' like I'm John Dee
Got my black magic book and drew a circle round me
Bish, I wake up in the morning feelin' like I'm not me
I'm a beast, I'm a killer, I'm a young Crowley

One of my friends is actually a Jehovas Witness, though he's not active.  I asked him how he felt listening to music that, at some times, literally advocated things explicitly prohibited by his religion, and his response was that he was well aware of the consequences and fully accepted them.  This seemed an odd answer to me, and maybe it's the 9 year gap in age (he's 20 and I'm 29) that muddled communication a bit.  Why would someone continue to classify themselves as something so strict, yet blatantly disregard the teachings and/or restrictions?  I feel like it's partially because of the goofy nature in which the concepts are delivered, making them almost cartoonish.  In the same way someone can appreciate a horror movie regarding exorcism while others are tormented by the dramatic images.

Personally, I mostly listen for the instrumentals.  I'm a big fan of heavy hitting bass and it puts me right in the head space I need to be in.  I've also always really been into boundary pushing metal, so the parts that are thrash and grind -esque really get me going as well. 

September 13, 2018, 04:07:20 am
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Re: Intro Thank you both!
September 13, 2018, 04:07:48 am
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Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison I'm actually a really big fan of The Invisibles.  I remember it happened in a pretty weird way.  I just happened to be skimming torrent sites for comics, because why not, and one with a ton of seeds was The Invisibles.  I had never heard of it before, but the name stood out and after reading the brief description I was 100% down.  So I snagged it and a few others, got a comic book reader, and started at it.  About a year later I still hadn't quite finished it.  Odd things were happening whenever I would read it, strange little serendipitous references in everyday life mostly.  Later I read some articles talking about it being a hypersigil and how it's not uncommon for odd things to happen while reading it, so that made sense.

Once I made it to the final section though, things started breaking apart I guess?  It became really hard to follow and it was like I was just trudging through it because I absolutely had to finish it.  I still don't think I fully understand the ending, and I haven't made the trek back through it..though I plan to eventually.  All in all Morrison's art style is amazing and his writing is just as good if not better.  Very mindblowing read from an amazing artist.

This video appears to be a story from Sacha Baron Cohen about Liam Gallagher though >.>  not sure that was intentional?


September 26, 2018, 06:28:52 pm
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Re: Just read Chaos Protocols by Gordon White. I think this is actually the path I'm finding myself on, though not in regards to economics specifically.  It's similar to programming as well, which I've been convinced is my 'way out' for a good little while.  You have to take a problem and break it into many small pieces so that it's eventually it's easier to understand.  I think I'm following correctly at least, if I'm off please do let me know.
September 26, 2018, 06:35:12 pm
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Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison So you're saying I need to read two other series to fully understand it?  Because I'm 100% down, I just have to find the PDFs  or CBRs somehow.
October 02, 2018, 05:05:36 pm
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Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison I also took the time to read wiki entries on the various comics and realized that I was mistaken about him illustrating it, which isn't that big of a deal.  The whole series is still phenomenal regardless of who drew it.
October 02, 2018, 06:02:40 pm
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Re: Philosophy of Grant Morrison After reading the summary of The Filth and from your description of the transition, I imagine it's a wild ride.  Fortunately (or not) for me it was relatively easy to find.  Flex Mentallo however, I'm not having so much luck.
I fully intend to take this journey.  If things are too crazy, maybe I'll be aware enough to bail.

October 03, 2018, 01:06:17 pm
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Re: "The solution to bad religion is good religion, not no religion." I recently met back up with an acquaintance from high school and apparently during high school I actually heavily influenced his decision to become atheist.  At the time I was hairline deep in whatever edgelord counter-culture type ideas I thought might offend at least a couple of people, so I was pretty outspoken about my disdain for Christianity specifically, but all religion at the core.  Eventually I made it past that stage in my growth and opened my mind to many new possibilities and interpretations.  This guy didn't.  He's definitely what I'd classify as a 'new atheist', and even though we can level on some discussion points, it usually degraded into him bragging about how he wrecked a theist in a 'debate' on a facebook group.  I've dealt with other people like this as well, and it can definitely be tedious trying to have any kind of actual discourse, to the point where there's no real reason to even attempt it.
October 03, 2018, 04:00:52 pm
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