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Re: Who is this guy? Namaste!

I don't know if anyone noticed I was missing or not, but I'm back and I'll never do that again.

Fr. Sisyphus  :)

May 18, 2018, 08:08:14 am
Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP?
Oh definitely. AL calls numerology a joke, is stellar in nature quite obviously, tells Crowley not to change the book and insults him several times... I have no idea how Aiwas led to the founding of mainstream Thelema. Considering the rise of the LHP, Aiwas didn't seem too pleased either.

I fully agree with you.

Regarding LHP vs RHP, I do believe that it is a Left Hand Path within a Right Hand Theology - aka, we are left to walk our own paths without moral dogma or restriction but still in some form of adoration or acknowledgement towards the higher forces that the deities of Liber Legis represent (I personally always have contradictory thoughts around them to be honest, aside from Aiwass itself - which I do fully believe is a real force or spirit, give or take a punch to orthodoxy).

Essentially, Liber Legis says (colloquially speaking of course) "here is God, here is the universe. Fuck what false religions have put in your mind about sin and false ideas about God. Go and walk your path, rise to the best you can make of your existence. Remember that I want this for you, life is about joy and ecstasy"

May 18, 2018, 09:28:37 am
Re: Are there any examples of Apep being viewed in a positive light? Interestingly, I have likened Hadit to Apep before - although Hadit encapsulates more than just Chaos.
May 18, 2018, 11:08:54 pm
Re: Discussion on Thelema: RHP or LHP? It's interesting you mention Hadit as Kundalini, because I've seen Nuit referred to as Kundalini. In many ways with Liber Legis (and scripture in general) the density of the text, provides layers for the yogic and tantric (well, that part is obvious on the surface) symbolism/instruction.
May 18, 2018, 11:14:21 pm
Re: Would you follow a Satan similar to the one from christian mythos? This is an interesting thread!  :mrgreen:

As somebody who doesn't have any big quarrels with The Bible or basic Christianity itself (despite disagreeing with a lot of the doctrines and dogmas), this highlights several points:

In The Bible itself (and not Gnosticism, Satanism or related traditions) Satan doesn't play a part that is nearly as important than is often emphasized. As the Old Testament (or Tanakh) is often the source of criticism at Yahweh, I find it interesting to look at the Jewish interpretations thereof. It is quite stunning to find the huge lack of emphasis of Satan in Judaism, seeing as the Hebrew texts are what are generally emphasized. 
Then regarding Christianity, amazingly it is the impressively Kabbalistic "Book of Revelation" which a lot of ideas of Satan being a grand, apocalyptic vision of Satan has been largely drawn from - likely due to how surreal and intense the imagery is (even more than the book of Ezekiel)

In Christian doctrine alone, no I wouldn't follow Satan. Outside of Christianity though, the different ideas that have been associated with the mythical figure of Satan, I find to be incredibly interesting. I do feel to some extend that his rebellious nature has created a tradition of placing Jesus' archetypal place over Satan's profile. It shows an interesting evolution of one of the most universal religious figures, for sure!

But contrary to being on this forum, I myself am not actually overly that interested in Satan (or Jesus for that matter)

Yahweh (YHWH) is a perhaps misunderstood deity and there is a lot of great material on him in much of the Kabbalistic and Hermetic literature (such as Eliphas Levi, whom I'm a huge fan of).
I personally see YHWH as more of a kindergarten teacher who has lost their patience, than en evil or wicked god. It is a reminder in the Torah itself, that humanity throughout history constantly fucks itself up, in spite of it's acknowledgement of god and what has come before, aka not learning from humanities previous mistakes.

That's some of my thoughts, I'm not Christian or Jewish but what the hell  :D

May 20, 2018, 08:53:27 am
Re: Would you follow a Satan similar to the one from christian mythos?
Could you give some specific references for this?

I mean that the difference between Yahweh in the Old (Tanakh) and New Testament, is the common subject of criticism that I've seen a lot of people use over the years.
The common perspective that Yahweh is vicious and evil in the Old testament (giving rise to the idea of Satan being a significant adversary to Yahweh's evilness) but good and loving in the New testament (adding Jesus' Salvation narrative to that mix)


May 20, 2018, 09:59:30 am
Re: Is the LHP a form of spirituality? Nothing is black and white  ;)

As I've stated here before, I follow/believe in a RHP theology (pertaining to the nature of God and the universe) but a LHP form of ethics and individuality etc.

I do think that to an extent, hanging on to the L. vs R. mindset slips us back into dualistic thinking. Although, different religions here have different surrounding such a thing (such as the Setian view of consciousness, or the Taoist view of the self etc)

May 23, 2018, 05:20:28 am
Re: Fr. Sisyphus' Archives A lot has been going on in both my social and my spiritual/magic life in past weeks, some which I will get into, some I won't.

One big thing is that I am finding myself moving far closer to Chaos Magick - as far as magic practice is concerned. I still believe in the Theology of Thelema, as any Hindu, Hermeticist and Muslim will have their definite ideas about God.

I see Chaos Magick, as magick that embraces the natural state of the material portion of the universe - Being what Hadit interpenetrates. I believe that working with Chaos and everyday life (rather than in a private room, your back yard or a basement etc) is the most direct connection (IMO) one can have with magick - which directly correlates with this natural state of the universe. Also, as we should know by now through non-dualism - Chaos and order are one and the same.

Gurdjieff, Ouspensky and the Fourth Way have re-entered my life both philosophically and practically. I think Gurdjieff was correct (and in a genius way) on many things, though maybe too mystical on others. Reading "In Search Of The Miraculous" in the past few weeks has brought a new love for his work which had died down a few years ago.

Blavatsky's "The Voice Of The Silence" is becoming a powerful devotional tool for me and resonates quite strongly. I definitely don't dislike Blavatsky or general Theosophy, there is Gnosis to be gained from many texts. The Voice Of The Silence, as it isn't a scholarly occult text, it has something over all of Blavatsky's other works. The relation to the self and maya etc that the book speaks of, I think is relevant in general to life.

Back to Thelema, I do have a disdain for Thelema as a Magick system. I don't like the idea of living someone else's life like that. The HGA and ritual methods espoused within OTO, A.A. and in general feel in a completely different world to Liber Legis. Also I find the idea of Aiwass being Crowley's HGA to actually make Thelema rather pointless, as a magic system.
Again though, I affirm that Aiwass and Liber Legis came from 'somewhere else', beyond Crowley or his understanding.
Crowley was a great writer however in many respects and just like King Mob, I have a special 'relationship' with The Book Of Lies - which continues to astound me in many respects.
Mainstream Thelemite communities tend to feel like fanclubs to me and I find their rejection of any literalism to be curious (as they tend to perceive everything or most things in Crowley's work as metaphor), yet at the same time they bash Soror Nema, Kenneth Grant, Michael Aquino etc.

Now once again onto study related stuff, I am really enjoying reading Eliphas Levi again. Transcendental Magic is truly a staple-work of occult literature. Like Peter Carroll, he is very straight forward to the reader and doesn't play games. The great thing about this book is that is is both helpful to occultists who have been in it a while (like me) and the beginners. It provides enough reference to have a decent history knowledge at the same time as to get started on ones own magical practices - I really like that!  :D

The Quran was a sacred text I was reading quite a bit three weeks ago but then it disappeared off the map. Islam is also curious - particularly Sufism. There is something about it that I can't put into words, something related to it's sense of sentiment and ritual. It's frequent mantra-like statement of "In the name of Allah, most gracious, most merciful" reminds me of the way "Do what thou wilt" is used commonly by Thelemites. Thing is with that, the more you write it/say it = the less is tends to resonate with oneself, it's intriguing.
While there are certain similarities (while speaking of it) between Islam and Thelema, there are also in general between the supposed "LHP" and "RHP". Islam is strictly RHP when it comes to ethics and it's sociopolitical platform but it has some weird LHP elements in the mix (which often is used to tie terrorists with).

I've been reading the Upanishads again too. Hinduism feels (like Thelema) a permanent part of my theological view of existence and the personal aspect of it too. The Upanishads are a staple of both religion/spirituality and philosophy for a reason! Om Shanti Shanti Shanti!
The Taittiriya Upanishad in particular right now is a regular read for me.

I have fallen off the trail of synchronicities lately but I hope to get back onto it. I'm at another one of those points in life where I have to make defining decisions. I want the best for those that I meet, at the same time I would like there to be more like-minded people around. On the spiritual/occult side of things, I've got places like here and RF but I that 'real-life' (physically being there, reading and discussing with people) kind of scenario is a whole other kind of thing.   :oops:

But yes, life goes on!  :)

May 30, 2018, 08:44:28 am
Re: Suicide and Mind-Body Dualism This is a massive (and controversial, within reason) topic. I agree with your statement there, above and beyond it, in a psychological and artistic perspective - I do see the idea of suicide (particularly euthanasia) as one reclaiming their body from which has been taken from them; regaining their dignity and freedom as a human being and spirit.

There is this large metaphysical divide, in a lawful sense between what we do and don't know regarding life after death (and reincarnation and all that lot). I am not talking in reference to people with terrible depression (who I support and wish them better health, there is support worldwide), in this context but rather relating to our body functions and nature. Artaud wrote a lot of interesting points on such things (such as his essay about Van Gogh), which I'll mention as a nice reference.

It comes down to (as Xepera noted) mind-body dualism. There are several ways we could look at this:
- A healthy mind taking a body that is no longer functional (in a true medical sense)
- An unhealthy mind taking a body in great condition

A healthy body will certainly not react well, as obviously the nature and Will of the body is: to live.

Either way it is one taking over the other in either major form of 'suicide'. Ideally both should be realistically trying to be healthy and thriving.

May 31, 2018, 05:06:12 am
Re: Left Hand Path Quotes Very LHP quote, from the Taittiriya:

"I am food, I am food, I am food, I am the eater of food. I am the eater of food. I am the eater of food. I am the binding agent, I am the binding agent, I am the binding agent. I am the first born of the cosmic order, before the gods and the center of Immortality. He who offers me, he alone protects me. He who eats food (without offering), I, as food, eat him. I, as the Supreme Lord, overpower the whole world. I am the golden light like that of the sun. Whosoever knows this (becomes so). This is the secret teaching."

June 05, 2018, 02:44:20 am