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Title: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on June 18, 2017, 04:16:52 pm
Currently I am reading "Godel's Proof," which so far questions the ability to use axioms in mathematics. I've been interested in philosophy of math since becoming a Platonist, and it's a good read. I'd love more of a these books for non-mathematicians if they exist.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Onyx on June 18, 2017, 08:57:25 pm
Recently got the MindWar "trilogy", read the first half or so of MindStar, started reading MindWar. FindFar is next.

Electrodynamic Man is one the way, which I'm pretty excited about as it is supposed to explain Dr. Burr's experiments in better detail. Am also enjoying Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries which is amazing in it's detailed explanations, fun to browse through at least.

My brother is a mathematician, I'll ask him if he can recommend anything related to philosophy/Platonism.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Onyx on June 18, 2017, 10:13:23 pm
My brother is a mathematician, I'll ask him if he can recommend anything related to philosophy/Platonism.
He said he didn't really get into that sort of thing and couldn't recommend anything in particular.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on June 21, 2017, 06:57:09 pm
I am also reading Justice by Michael Sandel (philosophy of justice) and Nightside of Eden by Kenneth Grant. 
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on June 21, 2017, 11:23:15 pm
Sourcebook of Indian Philosophy and An Idealist View of Life. Both by Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan. I have the latter in PDF format if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: merytseth on June 23, 2017, 12:09:07 am
The Gods of the Egyptians, in segments at least, along with Goddesses, Whores, Wives, and Slaves, an study of women in classical antiquity.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on June 23, 2017, 12:15:47 am
The Gods of the Egyptians, in segments at least, along with Goddesses, Whores, Wives, and Slaves, an study of women in classical antiquity.
I'm the same way, I'm reading like 5 books at any given time it seems. There's just no way to keep up.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on June 23, 2017, 12:24:30 am
Done with Radhakrishnan. Currently reading John Fowles' The Magus and Her-Bak: Egyptian Initiate.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on June 23, 2017, 12:32:35 am
Done with Radhakrishnan. Currently reading John Fowles' The Magus and Her-Bak: Egyptian Initiate.
Let me know how you like Her-Bak! 
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on June 24, 2017, 03:40:28 pm
Apparently Peter Levenda wrote a fact filled Lovecraft fiction called "The Lovecraft Code," so I got that. Only to chapter two but it's not bad, definitely read worse. Quite lurid, but the dude loves Kenneth Grant so I expect nothing less!
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Onyx on June 26, 2017, 02:17:52 pm
Electrodynamic Man arrived. It appears to be pretty exhaustive, full of charts and data, photos of test subjects etc. I have a feeling I won't be getting much work done today.

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Briefly, this discovery is that man is an electric organization, an inseparable part of a universe of law and order. He is not - as some have supposed - the accidental consequence of the random association of molecules or of haphazard evolution.
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Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: W_Adam_Smythe on July 12, 2017, 02:49:23 am
Currently two books at once.

Mysteries of The Temple of Set by Don Webb and The Playboy Book Of Horror and the Supernatural. The latter was published in 1968 and is a collection of short stories. So far, it has some  nice little gems.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: merytseth on July 12, 2017, 01:12:52 pm
Currently reading Alchemy: An Introduction to the Symbolism and the Psychology by Marie-Louise von Franz, a very interesting (and very readable) book on Jung's work with alchemy as it applies to individuation vs. the collective consciousness.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Neutrino on July 28, 2017, 04:08:51 am
The Book on the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan W. Watts (focuses on the Vedanta Hindu philosophy, Watts tries to translate the meaning of eastern religions to westerners)
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Shadow Wolf on August 03, 2017, 03:47:53 am
I'm 600-some pages into A Storm of Swords, third book in the Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones book series. About 500 more pages left to go, and two more beefy books left after this one.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Ningishzidda on August 05, 2017, 02:59:56 am
Tantra in Practice by Gordon White (not the Gordon White on youtube, but the professor of Eastern studies)

The Tai Hsuan Ching


The Tree of Life by Regardie

The Law is For All

Hellenic Polytheism: Household Worship

Physician of the Soul, Healer of the Cosmos

The I Ching, a Biography

The Complete Kama Sutra by Alain Danelou
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on August 05, 2017, 03:06:21 pm
I'm really struggling to finish The Lovecraft Code. The story is good enough weird fiction, but I hope Levenda sticks with non fiction. You read Dark Lord and the man seems like a well read genius. Lovecraft code seems like a high school project by a fan boy. But I'll finish it, I do want to know what happens.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Onyx on August 07, 2017, 02:31:12 am
Has anyone read Don Webb's new book on Set?

https://www.amazon.com/SET-Outsider-Judith-Page/dp/1548138061/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0 (https://www.amazon.com/SET-Outsider-Judith-Page/dp/1548138061/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0)
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on August 07, 2017, 02:59:11 am
I have not but it's on my list.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Deidre on August 07, 2017, 04:11:39 am
Okay, so tonight I got for my kindle app "Luciferian Order: To Know, Dare, Will and Keep Silent" by Lucian Black
I was looking for a practical book of the basic LHP philosophy and this received good reviews so we will see how it reads.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Neutrino on August 11, 2017, 08:21:02 pm
Tantra in Practice by Gordon White (not the Gordon White on youtube, but the professor of Eastern studies)

The Tai Hsuan Ching


The Tree of Life by Regardie

The Law is For All

Hellenic Polytheism: Household Worship

Physician of the Soul, Healer of the Cosmos

The I Ching, a Biography

The Complete Kama Sutra by Alain Danelou

Do you think Terrence McKennas timewave zero theory based on the I Ching has any relevance?
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on August 11, 2017, 08:34:29 pm
Tantra in Practice by Gordon White (not the Gordon White on youtube, but the professor of Eastern studies)

The Tai Hsuan Ching


The Tree of Life by Regardie

The Law is For All

Hellenic Polytheism: Household Worship

Physician of the Soul, Healer of the Cosmos

The I Ching, a Biography

The Complete Kama Sutra by Alain Danelou

Do you think Terrence McKennas timewave zero theory based on the I Ching has any relevance?

It kind of centered around the idea that in 2012 the singularity would happen (can't remember if that's the right term) and we would meld with technology and all that. I believe it was in October, but then he found out about the Mayan calendar thing and moved it to December.

Holy shit, the Mayan thing... Haven't thought about that in 5 years!
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Setamontet on August 11, 2017, 09:07:16 pm
Has anyone read Don Webb's new book on Set?

https://www.amazon.com/SET-Outsider-Judith-Page/dp/1548138061/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0 (https://www.amazon.com/SET-Outsider-Judith-Page/dp/1548138061/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0)


I haven't done a lot of reading lately, I've been planning to do some catching up.  This book is definitely on my list.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on August 12, 2017, 10:58:29 am
Has anyone read Don Webb's new book on Set?

https://www.amazon.com/SET-Outsider-Judith-Page/dp/1548138061/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0 (https://www.amazon.com/SET-Outsider-Judith-Page/dp/1548138061/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0)


Not yet. But it's on my list too.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on September 24, 2017, 04:50:22 am
I haven't been reading. Just ordered SET - The Outsider by Don Webb.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on September 28, 2017, 01:24:46 am
Thursakyngi II-Loki and Thursakyngi III-Gullveigarbok for mysticism. The latter is extremely great. It's an in depth study of a more mysterious figure in Norse Mythology and shows it's works, really solid interpetation of the mythology. It has an interesting practice of Seidr that journeys to the underworld but feels mostly academic. I think I just got to the more gnostic side of it.

Loki is pretty cool, it summarizes some of Ekortu's views on Loki, which I can't say I completely agree with, but seems like it has a lot more detail on the Thursatru tradition and more practical girmoire work. I've only skimmed it, really.  I really like the philosophy of other LHP Norse texts I've already read a lot more but this seems good for practical stuff.

For recreation, I'm really getting back into comics which is great, it's an old passion of mine I haven't had time for. Took a chance on some local independent comics that I loved and read Magneto: Testament which is fantastic. I think I'm gonna get more into the Marvel universe, for once.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on September 28, 2017, 08:32:29 pm
I'm super excited to read this but I'm still pretty hooked on Ghost Recon lol. Hopefully I'll get started this weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZG7rhGK.jpg)
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on October 01, 2017, 05:54:35 pm
Quareia. Module 1 at least.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on October 06, 2017, 07:42:48 pm
For Freedom Destined by Frantz E. Winkler.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on October 10, 2017, 11:16:57 pm
I was skimming through PDFs and came across the Occult Institute of Technology. As this was a long time ago, the URL no longer works. But I ended up reading a document by its founder called The Technician's Guide to the LHP. This resonated with me and made sense to me.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on October 10, 2017, 11:55:05 pm
I'm currently starting to work through Apophis and Aegishjalmur: The Book of Dragon Runes at the same time. I really enjoy it. I should defer to the Book of Apophis at one point but I've been reading theory and stuff for so long than I need to take a break and actually practice again.

I'm tired of being an armchair occultist. I lost my passion for it somewhere and could never get back in the groove til now.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Liu on October 13, 2017, 10:54:05 am
I'm currently starting to work through Apophis and Aegishjalmur: The Book of Dragon Runes at the same time. I really enjoy it. I should defer to the Book of Apophis at one point but I've been reading theory and stuff for so long than I need to take a break and actually practice again.

I'm tired of being an armchair occultist. I lost my passion for it somewhere and could never get back in the groove til now.
Same here. Started with the first 70 pages or so of Aegishjalmur yesterday and intend to read the corresponding chapters of Apophis when I'm done with reading chapter 3.

The main mistake I seem to make with these kinds of books is that I read them once from front to back and then never do anything but the most easy exercises from them. You can't learn for example programming from just reading textbooks on it from front to back, why do I then do so for this kind of topic? Even on the previous similar such book I read, Kali Kaula by Jan Fries, I at least made myself an overview of which pages include interesting practices to try, but still didn't get myself to actually do much.

So, since I already read the whole of Apophis some few years back I suppose this time I'll not read any further than chapter 3 of Aegishjalmur and the corresponding one of Apophis and only read on once I've already at least started with all the practices suggested that I would intend to try anytime soon. Allowing me to skip some, though, of course, if they don't seem useful to my situation.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on October 13, 2017, 05:31:12 pm
@Liu (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=61) I cheated an peaked ahead in Aegishjalmur just to see if it is something I will follow through to the end. It is! I really like it. Now I'm just focusing on working on one head out of a time.

I definitely recommend working both programs at once and reading the chapters simulataneously. I'm currently working on the first head of Apophis while doing the vision initation in Aegishjalmur and it's pretty effective so well. I can definitely feel it starting to change me already. Awakening each sense for the first time is a wonderful experience and the Dragon Pose as well as visual meditations in Aegishjalmur really help to awaken the lust that is essential to the path. It feels like a controlled lust though, it's thoughts on the Scarlet Woman and Freyja give good guidelines to prevent it and focus on the God Pose in the first head of Apophis really helps with self control. At least, in my experience so far. I feel dumb for neglecting Crowley's yoga poses now that Apophis has showed me practical benefits. I'm pretty super stoked for the alchemical changes in me.

I think the problem with other books that have programs is that they just never really resonated with me so I'd read them in full and pick the parts that did. This one, I don't know, just seems perfect for me with spiritual resonation, exercises, scheduling. Michael Kelly seems smart and well-versed. He seems to have devoloped a modern approach to Seidhr based off of his time in Order of Leviathan and study of mythology which just seems really intuitive. I can't believe I never put it together myself.

Which exercises have you started, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Liu on October 13, 2017, 06:25:38 pm
Which exercises have you started, out of curiosity?
Just began reading yesterday, as I said, so not much yet ^^ Still at the intro of Apophis. But regarding Aegishjalmur I've started with those visualizations that are to be done 9 nights in a row. I actually had started those when I first read Apophis and Aegeshjalmur's beginning some years ago, but didn't do more than like the first 2 or 3, and not in any focused fashion. That kind of visualization still isn't easy, but it worked much better so far now that I actually put some more effort into it.

And I at least printed out those pages which are about the rune meanings and poses and would like to study those next. Actually I'm a bit skeptical whether those rune poses are anything worthwhile as I've not done anything like that before (well, I do hatha yoga regularly, but in a pretty much completely unspiritual manner so far), so I'm curious to see whether that technique proves useful.
I already have a rough idea of the rune meanings since I once read a book by Jan Fries on that and actually incorporate some runes as symbols in my personal notes since quite a while already. But re-reading that chapter showed me how much I had forgotten due to never using it.

Those exercizes on the 5 senses, yeah I remember reading about them but I lacked the discipline at that time to actually practice that much.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on October 13, 2017, 08:11:48 pm
I've always had an active imagination so I can have a good flashes of really good visualization if I really work on it and apply myself. I found the god posture helped a lot with my ability to help when expirimenting with Apophis. Michael Kelly, in both the book and his youtube videos, does a wonderful job of explaining the psychological reference. I've been noticing my visualization skills improve each specific day too.

As for the rune postures, Stephen Flowers' books also use staldhr and those rune yoga poses. I'm not sure if they're the same but I've heard good things about trying them. There's also some rune mantras elsewhere. I definitely trust Flowers as the uttermost authority on runes in a magical sense and I'm sure Kelly learned his Stalhdr/Rune Yoga from Flowers in the Temple of Set.

I recommend doing the sense exercises, which is esentially just mindfulness focused on a sense, as you do the visualization initiations. It will greatly improve your visualization ability as you can now imagine better having been alert to these details in real life.

My main issue is I really want to work on a few specific heads at a same time because I know my weak spots in certain areas but I'm gonna try to pace mysef.

Not to mention it's philosophy in the 5th head about The Scarlet Women sheds a lot of light on why Set would want to spread conciousness.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on November 22, 2017, 06:23:47 pm
I think I'm gonna check out the works of Kenneth Grant this Thanksgiving break.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Sutekh on November 22, 2017, 07:21:33 pm
I am currently reading "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli which goes into detail on using Political Power correctly.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on November 22, 2017, 08:10:27 pm
@Sutekh (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9)  I started the audiobook of that the other day, I couldn't get into it which is sad as I really want to read it. It's recommended for Lesser Black Magick in quite a few LHP books which, I mean, obvioulsy his advice but also in the way he addressed the ruler, I suppose, could be counted as LBM.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on November 22, 2017, 10:24:09 pm
I am currently reading "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli which goes into detail on using Political Power correctly.

I've owned this book a couple times on and off. And now I want it back on my shelf.
I've also ordered Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky and 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Sutekh on November 22, 2017, 10:45:30 pm
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I started the audiobook of that the other day, I couldn't get into it which is sad as I really want to read it.

Ah, with me I am able to understand reading books without the audio. Personally I understand Machiavelli more clearly than Mr. Aquino. Don't get me wrong, I was able to understand MindWar. But his figure of speech is quite complicated to grasp. At times I even have to read Mr. Aquino's writings two to three times to gain his full understanding, I do the same technique to other books that I often read as well to gain the things that are important to keep in mind.

At first I was expecting The Prince to have a Shakespearean type Literature, but I am quite surprised that it does not have that type of setting, since it has a translator type of a writer who improved the language I guess.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Sutekh on November 22, 2017, 10:49:11 pm
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It's recommended for Lesser Black Magick in quite a few LHP books

I recall stumbling upon "The Prince" on the Temple of Set's Reading List on Mr. Aquino's "Black Magic."  At first I wasn't interested in getting the book, however when I read through MindWar it interested me to get the book since it was quoted on many of the pages of MindWar.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on November 23, 2017, 01:43:43 am
Draconian Conciousness is certainly interesting and gives me a lot to think about! I more or less Crossed the Abyss in the same fashion they recommend using intuition and The Book of Babalon by Jack Parsons.

I'll have to do some void meditations and stuff in it since I am comfortable going back to that state and they have some helpful rituals including it. Well, the framework of some. Also, with the philosophy of turning work into play, it made me realize I need to broaden my horizons and try new shit I've been skeptical of like an invisiblity ritual. That sounds fun.

This only focuses on the fourth to seven heads of the Dragon. If anything, I recommend it for the inspiration in creativity and passion of rituals. It's good to shake Dogma even if it's your own opposed dogma on your practice.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Cabshear on November 27, 2017, 02:18:49 am
Greetings,

Currently in a deep study of Egoism and Individual Anarchism.

The Ego and it's Own by Max Stirner
The Joy of Egoism
There is No Free Society by George Palente
What is Society?
The Egoist Encyclopedia by Wolfi Landstreicher
Nihilism by Brett Stevens

It is very interesting to dive into an expansive study of the Ego, or as Stirner calls it, the Unique One. This is not to be confused with the Freudian Ego.

Connecting this with the Potential of Satan, or for our Setian friends the PoD or Gift of Set, it quite an interesting discovery. RHP ideology (both political and relgious) attempts to stifle this Unique One and assimilate Self into a sum total. The promethian LHP works to actualize and foster the growth of The Unique One.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on November 27, 2017, 09:36:59 pm
I just started the Psychopath's Bible by Hyatt. It's really tongue-in-cheek and amusing to my sense of humor.

I'm about to start Kenneth Grant's Typhonian trilogies literally right now too.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Cabshear on December 04, 2017, 08:13:39 am
I am currently reading "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli which goes into detail on using Political Power correctly.

A modern alternative this, if you're interested, is The Occult Technology of Power.

http://www.underworldamusements.com/product/the-occult-technology-of-power (http://www.underworldamusements.com/product/the-occult-technology-of-power)

I enjoy this little primer, have read it many times. Enjoy.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on December 04, 2017, 03:10:55 pm
I am currently reading "The Prince" by Niccolo Machiavelli which goes into detail on using Political Power correctly.

A modern alternative this, if you're interested, is The Occult Technology of Power.

http://www.underworldamusements.com/product/the-occult-technology-of-power (http://www.underworldamusements.com/product/the-occult-technology-of-power)

I enjoy this little primer, have read it many times. Enjoy.


Ah thanks! I think I saw it as a recommendation in Amazon but was somewhat skeptical if it would be worth the purchase. Coming from someone whose opinion I respect, I will certainly check it out!
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on December 06, 2017, 01:51:28 am
I only have 10 pages or so left in The Psychopath's Bible so I started Apophenion by Peter Carrol for another quick read.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: pi_rameses on December 09, 2017, 02:47:55 pm
Currently reading Religious Requirements and Practices of Certain Selected Groups: A Handbook for Chaplains. I want to use it as a resource for a comparative religion app. Most APIs I found were effectively Bible lookups and not too satisfactory for my purposes.
 
http://www.blackrosespiritualcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ReligionsHandbook.pdf
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on December 24, 2017, 02:46:10 am
I'm actually revisiting my older Peter J. Carrol chaos magick book tonight. I'm studying his later work now and I needed to get some rituals out of his old books and I ended up reading them after remembering how delightful they are and how cohesive his whole body of work is.

I love his theory of color magic.

I completely forgot the color I percieved Octarine magic asas Yellow/Orange. Yellow being Ego magic and Orange being Mercury-esque magic. Esentially, ego magic is the control of ego- the ability to shift between personalities, paradigms, etc at the flip of a hat. Yellow magic was literally the first magick I ever practiced before knowing what magic was.

Orange magic is not just thinking magick, but the ability to think by not thinking. The domain of tricksters such as Loki. Esentially getting yourself into a situation where anxiety takes over and finding a way out of it by being able to handle it under pressure. Fear gnosis is somewhat hand in hand with it. I think that's why I'm attracted to Enochian, Qlipoth, and Lovecraft lately. Every western magicina has heard rumors about their dangers and power.

Octarine magic symbolizes the Magician self, what draws one to magic, and ego self is usually the opposite. No wonder I'm attracted to LHP between my focus on ego and trial by fire. I feel like they balance each other out, ego magic can prepare one for orange safely.



But back to the books: Peter J Carrol's bibliography is great, the way it evovles. His theory on color magic(taken strongly from Kaballah by stripping it down to basics) gets some complex and his latest book, EPOCH, by evolving it into the Chaoballah-which is more of a biplantery/bicolor system for analyzing deities that make more sense. EPOCH also has a great Necronomicon section.

Similarly, Peter J Carrol's insistence on using E-Prime (no use of "is was, am, or are) evolves into a new paradigm in Apohenion which tries to deconstruct the basics into a different perspective by deconstructing language and physics to reflect life more "accurately" (read- create an entirely new belief based on some newer philosophy and science).

While not a fan of his quantam mechanics, and it is largely his weakest spot- it does make the philosophy in Apophenion work well(the dull mathemetics in Octavo and Liber Kaos are meh, probably just blinds.)

His strong focus on heresy throughout keeps him from insisting too strongly on any truth- His quantam mechanics get dangerously close to this, unfortunately, but when it comes to philosophy derived from them- it's still insisted as a paradigm which definitely blurs the area. Which chaos magick should. And hey, his fixation on this gave us Sorcerer's chess which I sorely want to play.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on December 26, 2017, 10:32:15 pm
I'm still reading the above but I read some of Aleister Crowley and the Magickal Diary yesterday and today to get an idea for how I should keep mine. I need to finish it sometime, I feel like I got what I need from it for now.

Defintely recommend it. While Crowley is flawed in general, him being a writer was his greatest strength so not a bad person to look to on how to keep a written record. In fact, I find John St. John a more intuitive way of keeping record than the scientific way that gets passed around from modern magick and similar methods.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: BasiliskEggg on December 26, 2017, 10:48:03 pm
On my desk right now:


Nudge - Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein

Post-Modern Satanism - Jason King ( I have had this book for maybe 8? years and I recently took it out to check out these mold patterns that had developed inside some of the pages ~ they look similar to Rorschach inkblots)

IlluminAnX - Dr. Aquino

Homes and Other Black Holes - Dave Barry



Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on December 29, 2017, 05:27:35 pm
I forgot how directly occult DC Comics are. lol Right now, they're having an event called Batman: Metal

Long story short is, Batman's been tracking down this mystery for years(that Hawkman detailed in this journal that resembles a Lovecraftian protagonist). The journal reveals it goes back to 3 tribes since the dawn of time(hawk, bat, and something else.)

There's a lof extra lore in there but the main gist is- this secret society uses this mystery to trick Batman into literally staring into this Abyss.

This allows Barbatos(who happens to be an actual demon in the Goetia) to finally locate Bruce Wayne(Barbatos is linked to Batman's origin in Arkham Asylum and then begins to track him in Time & The Batman by Grant Morrison) which then allows all these Qlipothic versions of Batman to manifest in the real world.

These are all nightmarish creatures that Bruce would become if something different had happened in his career and he went mad, such as evil versions of the Justice League or even The Batman Who Laughs(this weird cross between Hellraiser s&m Batman and The Joker).
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on December 31, 2017, 06:38:13 pm
I just finished my third reading of Book of the Law, it's interesting how it changes with initiated perspectives.

I no longer look at Horus' chapter as something ghastly- rather a total fucking bad-ass that I aspire to be. He's a true a Acosmic hero.

"My left hand is is empty for I have crushed a universe and naught remains" is one of my favorite quotes ever.

It speaks to the Draconian in me, of Kelly's tradition, who seek to unmake and remake the universe to suit their will. 
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on January 03, 2018, 06:04:45 am
I finally read some Lovecraft stories after only reading Azathoth and Dream Cats.

I must confess, I don't find these as nightmarish as I thought I would. Having grown up on gothic literature and being fascinated with paganism and the occult, as well as holding existenital thought near- it's not anything utterly horrifying to me. I suspect a mix of all these things are what manifested the fear Lovecraft felt. I feel like I'm reading familiar things through the lens of someone else.

The Crawling Chaos, as it starts out, perfectly describes the feeling of the first time I had a dream that took place in the astral. If any thing is creepy about Lovecraft, it's that he somehow tapped into occult practice while wanting nothing to do with it- and what that may imply.

Don't get me wrong, I greatly enjoy this but Edgar Allan Poe was my favorite author in first grade and always had the reaction of "cool" instead of afraid to his work as well, although some like Pit and the Pendulum give a certain thrill to reading it. Lovecraft too gives me some kind of thrill but not horror.

Maybe this will change more as I read, I hope it does, because I love Lovecraftian movies and comics. Nameless was actually pretty fucking terrifying and captures the images and plotlines I think of when I think Lovecraft(and I love that the Judeochristian God is implied to be an Eldritch Horror from Universe B that creates fear to survive in it.)
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Post by: Xepera maSet on January 03, 2018, 01:03:16 pm
When it comes to Lovecraftian occultism, it's generally realized that Lovecraft is an outsider of what he describes, a non-occult person describing the occult. Meaning he takes things we desire like ascending the spheres and makes it monstrous, in some cases the specific monster Yog-Sothoth. To us it's not scary because it's all... Familiar. It's more about the imagery I'd say. Some stories like the Dreamland tales are generally not even meant to scare.

As far as Lovecraft that actually scared me a bit, I'd say Rats in the Walls was pretty good, along with Picture in the House.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on January 03, 2018, 05:34:47 pm
I'd have to agree with you on all that @Xepera maSet (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3)  which makes his work incredibly interesting but not horrifying. I think I prefer his work where he gives vivid description rather then leaving it to the imagination as well.

I'll definitely check those stories out at somettime and see if they scare me. I also started The House of Leaves, a different book by a different author, which sounds much more similar to my fears and plays on what I associate with Lovecraftian madness. I find this much more unsettling.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on January 12, 2018, 03:21:41 pm
I'm skimming through my huge PDF library of shit I haven't read. Was looking at the Big Ass ONA book and now Black Runa.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on January 12, 2018, 06:34:47 pm
First time looking through the Compendium of Demonology and Magic 1775. Here's some of the crazy shit!

https://imgur.com/a/am7Bx
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Post by: Onyx on January 12, 2018, 06:55:45 pm
Would be nice to have a translation of that, couldn't find one though.
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Post by: Liu on January 12, 2018, 07:55:55 pm
Would be nice to have a translation of that, couldn't find one though.
I could help you with the Latin and German parts, it's more difficult to read than to understand.
Sounds fairly basic, though.
Page 1: "Signs of elemental spirits, fire, water, earth and air".
Page 2: "The ??? of hand-chess(?) of the operation, inside" (can't read the third word, but grammatically must be at the place of the ??? if I read the rest correctly)
Page 5: First line: That's how Belzebub appears"
Would have to look more closely onto the rest as it's fairly hard to decipher.
I might need to practice deciphering manuscripts for professional reasons anyway, and doing so with that kind of content might actually be fun.
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Post by: pi_rameses on January 13, 2018, 02:10:38 am
Well done @Liu (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=61). I commend you.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on January 13, 2018, 03:03:57 am
This is a translation

https://fulgur.co.uk/books/edited-by-hereward-tilton-and-merlin-cox/touch-not/?v=7516fd43adaa
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Post by: pi_rameses on January 13, 2018, 01:57:40 pm
Awesome, @Xepera maSet (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3)
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Post by: NEMO 93 on January 13, 2018, 07:27:14 pm
I literally just finished Octavo by Peter J Carrol. I loved it, it's his practical take on the themes from Apophenion. Helped me think differently about magick and really got me going in the right direction again, I love the timey wimey stuff in the paradigm. I just need to finish apophenion.
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Post by: Onyx on January 27, 2018, 06:54:03 am
Browsing through The Conflict of Horus and Seth, which offers analyses of the relationship between the two gods, their influence on religious culture, etc. There are tons of sources on virtually every page and a bibliography. Despite its academic nature, the author uses plain English and the writing style isn't boring.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on January 27, 2018, 01:21:23 pm
Ohhhhh man I can't wait to check that out.

I'm reading Set the Outsider by Don Webb and Judith Page. Not the most entertaining book on Set I've read but still quite good.
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Post by: pi_rameses on February 18, 2018, 01:11:54 pm
Casanova: The World of a Seductive Genius by Laurence Bergreen.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on March 12, 2018, 03:11:26 am
I just read "I Wanna be Well How A Punk Found Peace and You Can Too" in one sitting. It sounds like a standard self-help book and it kind of is in a lot of ways but it's written by the guy from the punk band Teenage Bottlerocket. It's esentially about how he used bits of buddhist and yogi philosophy to find peace in sections, I feel the self help style actually worked for it. It was a chapter detailing the concept, a tl;dr and a mindfulness exercise whether it's meditation, yoga, or his own versions of mindfulness. I read it in one sitting in the store but I ended up buying it because having it on hand will help me put mindfulness practices in praxis thouroughly. Of course, philosophically you're better off going to straight to the source but it is entertaining to see a old punk rocker's thoughts on some of the philosophy.  "This includes assholes. In fact they often us more, in terms of life lessons and opportunities. Like growth? Thank a jerk!"

Overall: 7.5/10 but in terms of practicality to my life right now i'll give it a 8/10 since it's an important reminder of praxis I neglected.

I also bought Vagabonding by Rolf Potts as preparation for the future. I want to travel more and part of that is learning to do it affordably and my job will probably involve a lot of travel anyways so I look forward to reading it. Also got Zinester's Guide to NYC since I love to travel up there still. I don't know when my next trip is but I do know I need to find more local, hole in the wall places whenever I go again. I think my new tradition when I travel to a new state/city will be to get a Zinester's Guide to ___ as well as Weird U.S. on it.



X by Chuck Klosterman was my other new purchase. It looks fucking great, I loved his book Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs which I had to read for pop culture class and I loved it. These are various unpublished articles of his from throughout time.

My occultism is just sutding the runes one by one by switching between various books at the moment and finishing a couple on my backlist(Apophenia which is only a couple chapters left, and great perfection doctrine which I havent read but is super short).
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Post by: NEMO 93 on March 16, 2018, 04:06:23 am
[sorry I post in this thread so much. I read, a lot. It's a side-effect from restricting television viewing and short attention span.]

I'm about to finally *finish* Apophenion by Peter J. Carrol which leaves only the expository bits of EPOCH for me to finish his bibliography.

I'm considering revisting Phil Hine's bibliography next as it's always good to remember where you started from and I'd like another perspective on the chaos magick paradigm after studying Carroll's work the past year.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on March 16, 2018, 04:31:49 am
I've been reading my own book hahaha.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on March 16, 2018, 05:00:46 am
@Xepera maSet (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3)  When will it be available? I'd really like to read it. As I said elsewhere, I like your take on Setian philosophy alot.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on March 16, 2018, 08:51:03 am
I finished editing the hard copy today, so hopefully soon.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on March 22, 2018, 04:28:24 am
Just read oven-ready chaos and am going through Prime Chaos right now.

It's a fantastic break from Peter J Carrol's scientific and pretentious approach(which has necessary fundamentals and interesting paradigm of it's own) but Phil Hine is a nice emotional counterpart to it which is not to neglect.

He lays out all the theories and concept in it's most basic form which can be instrunctional for the beginner or applicable to the experienced magician seeking to shed un-needed complexity.

His stress on using fictional characters for the resonation with the individual is great for stripping away pretentiousness and seriousness while exploring the roots of magick. If you can do this with Spock and get results then you have to re-think the nature of any other magick you do. He stresses always approaching magick with a beginner's mind as to find out what works and what doesn't and why rather than to presume you know someting.

The main take-away is that magick, and chaos magick, is chaotic. Don't listen to anyone, do your own thing, and learn. Work meditation into your schedule(like when doing the dishes) rather than a commited time and program if that keeps you doing it. If you feel and impulse or urge, follow it rather than stick to a commited thing as that re-ignites your passion and may take you on the best divergent to experience it.

I'm applying all this to my life and want to do some chaos magick with fictional work to build up certain areas in my life that need it.

I also particularly enjoy his views on the HGA being a "mask" of chaos personal to you than a fixed static being as that is somewhat my interpetation of the ritual found in Liber Samekh- the bornless one being chaos.

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Post by: Xepera maSet on March 30, 2018, 01:30:04 am
Finally diving into "Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution"
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Post by: Frater Sisyphus on March 31, 2018, 08:17:08 am
Do any of our Lovecraft fans here have this collection?

(https://covers.booko.us/400/9781631060014)

I'm considering buying it  :)
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Post by: pi_rameses on March 31, 2018, 11:53:12 am
@Frater Sisyphus (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=124) No I don't have that but interesting book jacket.
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Post by: pi_rameses on April 09, 2018, 05:14:15 am
Curiously enough, I have ordered a recent book by @VenusSatanas (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=128).

https://youtu.be/LI4FxVef-EY
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Post by: NEMO 93 on April 09, 2018, 10:24:39 pm
I've been incredibly busy with school so I haven't had the time to read as much.

However, my friend gifted me his used copy of pseudonomicon and I breezed through it because of the size.

I really enjoyed it, you could strip it of Lovecraft imagery and applied to to occultism or chaos magick shamanism very easily.

There appears to be great merit in working with it on Lovecraftian terms and I'd hesitate to deal with Lovecraftian paths without knowledge from it in retrospect. I think pairing this with Hine's Necronomicon from EPOCH would have very strong results in Lovecraftian magick and may be the best approach.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on April 10, 2018, 12:10:36 am
I just ordered "We Break the Sword: the Nazi Peace of 1940" which I guess is a practical illustration of how Mindwar could have avoided WWII. I still struggle with the practice of a Mindwar but hopefully this clarifies!
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Post by: pi_rameses on April 18, 2018, 12:57:08 am
Just received the new book by @VenusSatanas (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=128). It's signed and has a nice gift accompanying it.

Thanks, @VenusSatanas (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=128)!  :)
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Post by: NEMO 93 on April 27, 2018, 06:03:45 pm
I currently started reading Book of Lies by Aliester Crowley as I feel I'm at a level of perspective to grasp and understand it as it was recommended to Babes of the Abyss.

I think I finally understand Crowley's Thelemic system. The RHP elements come in because he was all about reconcilation. His goal is to reconcile the ego and non-ego and you have to experience both. Hence all the sexual symbolism of the phalus entering the chalice. "without lust of result" in instrunctions for magic applies to that state of non-ego in which you use to effect the desires of the ego. It's no wonder he's so fond of sex magick, it's a great metaphor.

Crowley was insisted that the HGA is not the perfected self or even part of one's self, but we could see it as one's individual unique conception of divinity. Babalon is the mother of the abyss who when adepts enter and surrender, their only duty is to grow into a perfected self and vehicle fo their will. Grant Morrison defined Choronzon as the "last gasp of the existential self" and the imagery of nothing desparetly trying to form into various somethings recalls Lovecraft's Azathoth and a certain experience I had when dealing with existentialism and abyssal experiences. To finally let go of that inner demon would be to experience that buddhist state in which there is no "I" but only experiences.

Where Crowley differs from the RHP and Golden Dawn and Buddhism is this is not the end, Horus is key of this aeon as it resembles a child growing in the womb- godhood in this life- not the next as Osiris symbolizes. Hence some indentifications he did of Nuit and Isis with Babalon in his religion. It seems to be a bit confusing to where each interacting with the HGA occurs, it definitely occurs before the abyss but it seems to occur in a different way after.

I think Crowley's alchemical formula is something like: realizing your own definition of divinity, sacrifcing including that concept of godhood, embracing the world(to constantly grow is to constantly die), experience everything you can, then to reconcile it all together in equilibrium.

I'm not sure if this is middle path or what. Book of Lies is definitely an enlightening read.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on April 27, 2018, 09:19:24 pm
I didn't finish we break the sword, apparently I was way overcomplicating Mindwar in my head. Haven't been reading because of my whole daily headache thing sadly.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on May 12, 2018, 04:21:20 am
I've been reading Lon Milo DuQuette's works lately, mainly to further understand the Goetia and Tarot and also because I love his style of writing. He seems like a down-to-earth guy with a good sense of humor about himself.

I read Chicken Qabalah(which I bought for friend because he's trying to get into this stuff). It was mainly for entertainment factor but it helps understand the four world concept which then helps me to finally have memonics for court card meanings.

I've also read Key to Solomon's Key which I really loved, it expores the history of Freemasonry and attempts to link to it Knight's Templar in a fascinating but believable way. However, it's mainly just an attempt to get new people to understand the concept of Goetia but the second half did help me understand the system further.

I'm currently working my way through Understanding Crowley's Thoth tarot or whatever it's called as well as Low Magick. I'm happy that I'm far enough into my Tarot understanding that I'm ready to attack the complexities of Tarot and Lon provides a nice fluffy lead-in and break from Crowley's tediousness. Low Magick is just a ton of stories from his life with what he learned from it, I'm enjoying it for entertainment value but it gives me a few things to think about- he mentions analyzing your family's "magic" in a chapter and it's a really good way to understand yourself and apply it to an effective magical style.
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Post by: pi_rameses on May 21, 2018, 03:04:35 pm
Temple of Set v. 1 and 2. The first volume is the meat of it whereas v. 2 is supplemental. But my favorite part is The Sphinx and the Chimaera dialogue written by Aquino in v.2.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on May 21, 2018, 03:50:01 pm
I never got through sphinx in the chimera, it always bores me :O
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Post by: pi_rameses on May 21, 2018, 09:56:35 pm
Totally relatable. I think it helped that I had the Kindle edition and highlighted the main points as I went if ever I wanted to revisit it. There were some digressions that I could do without but perhaps a literary buff reader would appreciate more. But not nearly as exhaustive compared to the unending Plato's complete dialogues. :o
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Post by: Onyx on May 26, 2018, 04:20:38 pm
I never got through sphinx in the chimera, it always bores me :O

I'm not much into dialogue, don't even like reading fiction that much. But there is one interesting part about E=mc^2 where he makes the point that a constant (speed of light) is required for this "relativistic" theory to work. There is a bit of a contradiction there, and reading that short bit has sparked my interest in this stuff again.

Might post about it or write something for the newsletter, I'm no physicist but like to think outside of the box when it comes to science. It's likely to be even more boring lol.

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Post by: pi_rameses on May 27, 2018, 07:02:21 pm
Yes. That was the part that interested me the most as it continues in the dialectical method by anticipating what Plato might have thought about this now. That constant must be reconciled also and not be an exception for the scientific community to truly consider it a law. As far as I'm concerned, this is still theory and not law.
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Post by: Liu on June 06, 2018, 02:28:47 pm
Thanks for recommending Chicken Kabbalah, @NEMO 93 (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=68), that was an entertaining and informative read.

Now I finally know why some people count Water above Air (and it even makes sense to me - even read about the divine pair of fire and water in some scientific article on Germanic linguistics recently xD). Also the correspondence tables are quite neat and I might use them in my tarot readings.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on June 11, 2018, 03:51:12 am
@Liu (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=61)  That really is a fun read. I love Lon's writing, he gets the right attitude about magick imo. Just have fun with it. His book on Low Magick is great too.

I've recently bought a book on Djinn Sorcery. The Testament of Cyprian The Mage, and Magister Offciorum but have yet to read any of them. I've been super busy with multiple vacations and now I'm incredibly sick. I'll post updates as I read them though.
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Post by: Frater Sisyphus on June 19, 2018, 05:38:48 am
These:......

(The) Quran
Upanishads
Book Of Pleasure
Transcendent Unity Of Religion (I fucking LOVE Schuon)
Cosmic Serpent
Liber Null/Psychonaut
Principia Discordia (as always)
The Templars (Michael Haag)


(plus the obligatory Liber Legis....)

.....are what I've got on my reading cycle currently. I'm coming to love The Quran more and more, but I have some major issues with the major factions of Islam (Sunni and Shia), despite great fascination with them - the Sufi path is for me (moreso than the general "Magician" path)

And the more I engage with non-western Mysticism, the more I realize that the binds you find all through western occultism are rather un-necessary. While the divine truths of the universe can be found with Kabbalah and initiatory systems (to the right individual of course - not everyone), they are rather distractions (IMO), when they can be found easily elsewhere without being essentially dressed up through language and symbolism. Lao Tzu can say in 5 words, what might take a Hermetic Kabbalist a whole book to say. If you can internalize and gain Gnosis from those 5 words, then is that whole book really valuable?

I also tend to see the general Spare and Carroll book more useful to the magician, than the average Crowley, Regardie etc book. Not to say that I myself follow a psychological model of magick but they cut through (IMO) the bullshit when it comes to magick itself - which is a practical tradition and physical act. Theology can be applied however a person believes religiously, it quite often is a separate thing to the magic itself.

I'm a perennial and/or syncretic religious/spiritual person (if it wasn't obvious) and tend to see these shards of truth within the esoteric dimensions of all religion. I don't see things metaphorically (or psychologically, disregarding that we experience life subjectively) but I don't always see them literally either.



(Might expand more on my blog thread...)
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Post by: NEMO 93 on July 06, 2018, 04:26:39 am
I highly recommend the pop culture grimoire if you're a chaos magician, both original and 2.0. I'm not a fan of the guy who publishes them but that shouldn't matter as it's various essays much like our TIS.

I've read them a while ago but revisited today as I prepare for an elemental system. It has a lot of good advice in there from using tabletops rpgs as hypersigils (multiple magicians imagining and visualizing a shared universe with lore creates personal mythologies.) There's something on using trading cards such as Pokemon, Yugioh, or Magic the Gathering as grimoires and seals with a good justification of loosely relaing pokemon to a Shinto paradigm. My favorite though is creating a personal figure to draw on by playing RPG games such as Elder Scrolls, you're basically shaping a tulpa through technomancy and bringing it life and learning more about it. The specific article mentions how when he played a certain rpg while stoned, it becomes more akin to divination than shaping it. Naturally, you can turn that hero into a thoughtform. I put a lot of work into Skyrim Remastered with that idea- I've yet to work with him as I was gonna wait til I beat the game but I may just draw it up early.

I was working with pop culture before this- mainly the works of Jim Henson as Labyrinth and Dark Crystal, both the movies and comics, tap into natural mythological and archetypal storytelling so strongly that they're perfect for it. There's a great Joseph Campbell miniseries on Netflix if you want to know more about archetypes, myth, and our "modern" takes on them- this came out a while ago when the OT was modern.
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Post by: NEMO 93 on July 19, 2018, 12:49:09 am
I'm currently reading Magical Revival by Kenneth Grant.
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Post by: Frater Sisyphus on July 30, 2018, 11:30:12 pm
I'm reading Valis (by 'ole Philip K. Dick) currently  :mrgreen:

(it kinda fits in surprisingly well with Empire Of Angels too  :D )
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Post by: Xepera maSet on July 31, 2018, 07:26:59 pm
I'm reading a ton of stuff, not really anything specific right now.
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Post by: W_Adam_Smythe on September 29, 2018, 02:02:25 pm
I also like to mix and match so usually nothing specific all at once unless it really grabs me. One that has been in my rotation that is kind of interesting is on La Santa Muerte. The one thing that fascinates me with that and especially Voodoo is how that they have been able to blend elements of their practices right in with Christianity. They are able to go right into a church and practice their own true spiritual system and no one is the wiser. I can also to an extent say the same of Vampyrism if you play your cards right. No sense in getting uptight over JC. He preached immortality and encouraged folks to drink of his blood. ;)
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Post by: Xepera maSet on September 29, 2018, 02:42:45 pm
Skimmed Dragon Book of Essex

Grimoire Verum was way less than I expected

TIS vIV articles and they rock.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on September 29, 2018, 02:43:15 pm
Also Cults of the Shadow a bit.
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Post by: Mindmaster on September 29, 2018, 05:23:58 pm
Skimmed Dragon Book of Essex

Grimoire Verum was way less than I expected

TIS vIV articles and they rock.

Less as in cheap or small? It's not very big, and most of the old grimoires are pretty repetitive and tiny.

I still think it's historically important if anything. :D There are a bunch of others of note:

Grimoires of Honorius, Imperium, Grand
Picatrix
The Black Pullet

With any of them, expect your par-for-the-course standard amount of Christian paranoia. They're mostly all useful for sigils/seals, and names. Most of these are so old as to be public domain, there is no reason to pay for them. :D
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Post by: Xepera maSet on September 29, 2018, 10:25:02 pm
It was shorter than I expected is what I meant.
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Post by: Sutekh on October 21, 2018, 05:15:35 pm
I still got to finish Xepera maSets book. I might probably write a positive short review on Amazon, but I intend to remain anonymous.
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Post by: Sutekh on October 30, 2018, 05:58:14 pm
Forgot that I couldn't meet the eligibility requirements on Amazon to write the review on Xepera maSets book. :facepalm:
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Post by: Xepera maSet on October 30, 2018, 06:58:53 pm
Listening to DreamQuest of Unknown Kadath at work, my favorite fantasy.
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Post by: idgo on October 31, 2018, 07:31:56 am
I've noticed that my concept of "determinism" was imprecise and naive, and I've fallen down a rabbit hole of trying to properly understand its mathematical and philosophical definitions. At the moment, I'm examining its interactions with or contrast against probability. Currently I'm on http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~dmalamen/courses/prob-determ/NortonPSA.pdf, which requires dusting off quite a bit of physics that I haven't used in years. There seems to be other good stuff in the same course when climbing up that URL as well.
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Post by: idgo on November 08, 2018, 03:29:08 pm
Going back through Liber Null & Psychonaut now that I've gotten better at reading while holding constant awareness of the way the words passed through the author's biases as well as my own in order to get from their ideas to mine. This "skepticism" actually helps me spot nuances of meaning in some of the passages that looked the most inane without it. Communication about things that fit poorly into language is quite a fun cooperative game.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on November 08, 2018, 03:41:20 pm
The Cthulhu Mythos Megapack from Kindle - 40 weird fiction tales.

The Early Upper Paleolithic Beyond Western Europe
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Post by: Inlustratus on December 01, 2018, 02:36:37 pm
Recently I finished Holy Books of Thelema. (I am not a native English speaker and the book isn't in English either, so I might mistranslate something while referencing it.) It is an enjoyable book that contains more important books that Crowley wrote, like Liber AL Vel Legis. Personal favorite of mine is Liber DCCCXIII Vel Ararita Sub Figura DLXX. It's a great book that both experienced and new readers can pick up. It even contains the original Liber AL how Crowley wrote it. 70 pages of ugly handwriting that looks like gibberish. At the end it has images of The Stele of Revealing, hand drawn hieroglyphics, what each one means and full translation. I'd recommend it to anybody who can get their hands on one.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on December 01, 2018, 03:26:47 pm
The Sky-Religion in Egypt

Electrodynamic Man

The Devil's Party: Satanism in Modernity
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Post by: Xepera maSet on December 01, 2018, 06:16:52 pm
Sky Religion in Egypt by Wainwright is one of the best, most important book on early religion ever written.
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Post by: Onyx on December 08, 2018, 08:38:43 am
Going through Behold: The Prince of Darkness! by @Xepera maSet (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3) . An academic summary of various aspects of Setian Philosophy with many sources cited (and a nice bibliography), but not overly long-winded and written in Plain Englishâ„¢.

Nice job man!
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Post by: Xepera maSet on December 08, 2018, 02:28:58 pm
Thanks Onyx! Glad you like it.
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Post by: Xepera maSet on December 26, 2018, 11:03:55 pm
Find Far

In the Court of the Yellow King
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Post by: __metztli on December 27, 2018, 05:57:59 am
Beyond Good and Evil- Friedrich Nietzsche

After that the plan is to read the Akira manga
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on December 29, 2018, 05:59:52 am
Gonna crack into some David Foster Wallace as well as Thee Psychick Bible.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on December 30, 2018, 04:22:40 pm
Find Far was underwhelming.

Reading Visions of the Nightside and it's awesome! That's basically what the Obsidian Tablet should be.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Liu on January 05, 2019, 07:55:25 pm
I'm reading a lot of different books, but while seeking to both read something simple and getting inspiration for enhancing my spiritual practice I took a book I recently stumbled upon from my PDF pile: 365 Steps to Practical Spirituality by David Preston.

And it's rare for me to decide for a book that I won't ever finish it but that one is the greatest white light bullshit imaginable...
Preaches far and broad about how one should use reason and be skeptical and all - but tries to sell the belief in a all-good omnipresent and intelligent higher power by pointing out one flawed "proof" for it after the next (e.g. "why all-good? If it would be malicious the world would be different, wouldn't it?" - as if there would be no middle-ground that would describe reality more accurately). I find it astonishing how many obvious untruths I found on every single page without even searching. 

The book might be good for someone who has just left a traditional religion and searches for a replacement instead of for truth. It might also be an amusing read - if it wasn't painful to witness that amount of stupid.

There might be some good recommendations hidden in between but I'll easier find similar ones elsewhere I suppose.

Well, if anyone can point me to something they would recommend instead for inspiration on how to bring more spirituality into every day life? Got some more stuff that might fit the bill but don't yet know whether that's better.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: NEMO 93 on January 19, 2019, 02:46:45 am
I actually never ended up reading the books I said I was. I read some daoist texts instead.

Currently working my way through Outside the Circles of Time, Outergateways, and Beyond the Mauve zone with plans to read Hekate's whatever it was called and the finale book of the Typhonian trilogies afterward.

I'm switching between the books but I feel I've read enough Kenneth Grant now to make sense of all the ideas. If something comes up I haven't read in the other books yet, I still get the general idea and some of it is redundant yet enlightening.

Really really love his analysis of Thelema and the Current Aeon and possible meanings thereof.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on January 19, 2019, 03:44:51 am
TSB50
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: idgo on April 11, 2019, 05:03:30 pm
I discovered and ended up consuming the entirety of the SSOTBME Revised (https://zalbarath666.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/s-s-o-t-b-m-e-revisited-ramsey-dukes.pdf) PDF yesterday. I took him up on his " One printed copy allowed for individual use" caveat, and bound myself a copy for future annotation. Homemade paperbacks are really quite easy to put together if you happen to have an acceptable printer, some PVA glue, and some cloth on hand. Fortunately it came out with large margins; it's the kind of text that I expect to get the most value from by re-reading it in a while with a nice red pen and having a good intellectual spat with some of its allegations.

Every time I stumble back into the works of the Englishmen in the stratum of thought immediately preceding Chaos Magic/k, I'm surprised anew by how much of the incommunicable they manage to communicate. I suspect it's because they are of a culture and era sufficiently near that of my immediate forebears that their attempted synthesis of certain universal-but-indescribable concepts builds upon a set of conceptual symbols that I find very familiar. It's taking me a long time to stop cringing at the concept that their oh-so-comprehensible writings might be shadows cast by the same indescribables as the translations-of-translations-of-translations into which I have to stare so much harder to find any shred of common ground.

Less mystically, I am charmed by his use of "mine own" in place of "my own" :)
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Lyscii on April 12, 2019, 05:03:32 pm
Aside from Black Magic, I feel like SSOTBME has had the biggest impact on me of anything I've read this year. And it has easily been the most entertaining read this year. What did your paperback turn out like? I've been tempted to turn a PDF or two into something physical.

I'm currently reading Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihaly, and Behold: The Prince of Darkness by @Xepera maSet (http://orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3)
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: idgo on April 12, 2019, 06:42:37 pm
@lyscii It turned out like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/qIpSa7V.png)

Not the sturdiest, but perfectly serviceable for carrying around and annotating.

I printed the pdf 2 pages per sheet on 8.5x11, then cut it down with a ruler and sharp knife into sheets 8.5" tall and 5" wide. I could have trimmed some of the extra margins from top and bottom of each page, but I kept them for writing in. I also don't have a good solution yet for printing the pages front and back. This print technique yielded all the even pages in a stack and all the odd pages in a stack, so it took a little manual collation, but that was a good chance to double check that all my pages ended up in the right order. I added black cardstock "covers"/endpapers as something to glue the cloth cover to. Then I just clamped the stack together on what would become the right edge of the book, bent what would be the spine back and forth, and smeared what would be the spine with PVA glue. Bending the glue covered spine over a couple times in each direction (like https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/IFegT16ypFtGjQs2cIyK_hiddenedges10.jpg but with glue instead of art on the edges) helps ensure that each page is stuck to the next properly. I then wrapped a piece of cloth around it and glued it onto the spine and covers/endpapers and pressed the whole thing overnight. I like leaving a bit of extra cloth around the edges to protect the pages when the whole thing is carried around in a bag.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Onyx on May 10, 2019, 10:08:55 am
I've thought about making my own books from digital files for personal use, and it's inspiring to see someone actually pull it off. I can see how the blank pages provide plenty of room for notes.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on May 10, 2019, 12:17:23 pm
Trying to read Game of Thrones. Reading books is starting to really kill my eyes and head though, I think middle to old age will be progressively digital sadly.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Liu on May 12, 2019, 06:03:00 pm
I discovered and ended up consuming the entirety of the SSOTBME Revised (https://zalbarath666.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/s-s-o-t-b-m-e-revisited-ramsey-dukes.pdf) PDF yesterday.
Thanks a ton for mentioning that book. I've not yet finished it (taking it slowly to add my notes/summaries to the file and to make sure I understand at least most of it), but it's a very interesting read to say the least.
Title: Re: What are you reading?
Post by: Xepera maSet on May 30, 2019, 08:39:28 pm
The Book of the Divine Black Flame of Satan by Vrykolakas Oriax. Easy but fun read.